The product range PCD7.D7xx will be discontinued in 2011/2012 (we expect to be able to deliver the actual range until end of 2012); the repair service is guaranteed until end of 2015.

 

Together with the product range PCD7.D7xx (also known under the name "VT also the following products (cables and the programming software for the "ESA Panels") are discontinued:

• PCD8.D81W (VTWIN) 
• Q-CVPLC04202
• Q-CVPLC01402
• Q-CVCOM11102
• Q-CVCOM25F8M
• Q.CVCOM25F9M
• Q.CVAD25M9M

Remark
The products of the PCD7.D7xx range do have an equivalent product code in the form of VTxxx:       
      PCD7.D790................VT50   (0500 00000)
      PCD7.D795................VT60   (0600 00000)

      PCD7.D700................VT150W (150W 00000)
      PCD7.D706................VT150W (150W 000DP)

      PCD7.D710................VT170W  (170W A0000)

      PCD7.D720................VT190W  (190W A0000)
      PCD7.D725................VT190W  (190W AP000)
 
      PCD7.D730................VT300W  (300W A0000)
      PCD7.D735................VT300W  (300W AP000)

      PCD7.D740................VT310W  (310W A0000)
      PCD7.D745................VT310W  (310W AP000)

      PCD7.D750................VT320W  (320W A0000)
      PCD7.D755................VT320W  (320W AP000)

      PCD7.D760................VT555W  (555W A0000)
      PCD7.D761................VT155W  (155W 00000)
      PCD7.D761ET..............VT155W  (155W 000ET)
      PCD7.D763................VT525W  (525W 00000)
      PCD7.D763ET..............VT525W  (525W 000ET)
      PCD7.D765................VT555W  (555W AP000)
      PCD7.D766................VT555W  (555W AP0DP)

      PCD7.D770................VT565W  (565W A0000)
      PCD7.D771................VT505W  (505W 00000)
      PCD7.D771ET..............VT505W  (505W 000ET)
      PCD7.D772................VT505W  (505W 000DP)
      PCD7.D775................VT565W  (565W AP000)
      PCD7.D776................VT575W  (575W APS00)
      PCD7.D776ET..............VT575W  (575W 0PSET)

      PCD7.D785................VT585W  (585W APS00)
      PCD7.D786................VT585WB (585W BPT00)
      PCD7.D786ET..............VT585WB (585W BPTET)
      PCD7.D787................VT595W  (595W APT00)
      PCD7.D787ET..............VT595W  (595W 0PTET)

      PCD7.D788................VT585W  (585W APT00)

      PCD7.F779................VTPROFI/DP (VTPROFI/DP)

 

The article 450748150 is no longer available from Saia-Burgess Controls AG as the according displays have been phased-out. However, this article can be bought from other providers (it is a Lithium battery 3.6V 1/2 AA).

 

Possible battery types instead of 4 507 4815 0:

Standard

• Type LS14250 from Saft

Alternatives

• ER 1/2AA S from Varta 
• ER3 STC from Maxell 

Since the production 16/07/2010 the displays PCD7.D761, PCD7.D763, PCD7.D771 have a new boot version it is required to use as well the new FW version contained in the latest PCD8.D81W Version 5.22 programming tool.

This new boot and FW correct problem of frozen screen as describt in FAQ 101196!

 

 The latest programming tool version is available under:

sbc-support.ch/download/pcd8_d81w_v5_22.zip

Remarks
If we download a project / firmware with the latest PCD8.D81W V 5.22 to a panel containing the older boot (display older than 16/07/2010) it will request the calibration at each start up.

So it is necessary to update the boot first as descript in FAQ 101196 (link below)!

 

The programming tool PCD8.D81W (VTWIN) is not supported on the Microsoft Windows7 operating system.

 

The software PCD8.D81W has been written at a time Windows7 did not exist and therefore it is not compatible with Windows 7 or Vista. At the moment there are no plans for changing the software in order to be supported on Windows 7 or Windows Vista.
However it is possible to install PCD8.D81W V5.22 (VTWIN 5.22) on Win7 PCs and work with it but you might be faced to some restrictions!
Known restriction:
The german characters "ä", "ö", "ü" aren't display in the editor and on the screen!
Workaround install another font for example Arial instead of ESA font (see attached document)!
Remark
Please note that the software Polymath from ESA is not compatible with the PCD7.D7xx displays from SBC. The only solution in order to program these displays without any restriction is not to use Windows7 or Windows Vista.

 

Yes, bu the resources have to transfer from the S-Bus driver to the Ether-S-Bus driver. See the description below

 

Procedure for the conversion of a PCD8.D81W project

1. Open the project and move the SBC S-Bus driver from ASP to MSP.

2. Convert the panel from Vxxx rev 4 to VTxxx ETH.

3. Drag and drop the driver "SBC Ethernet S-Bus" to the Ethernet port.

4. Open the project editor (double click on the VT icon).

5. Export variables into a CSV format file. 

6. Run Excel and open the CSV file.

7. Change the name of the source device into SBC:Ether-S-Bus_a (default name in VTWIN project).

8. Save and close the CSV file.

9. Import the CSV file in your project
   The  source device of the variables should now have changed.

10. Adjust the addresses of the memory areas.

11. Compile the project.

12. Close the VTWIN project editor.

13. Delete the driver "SBC S-Bus" from the MSP port.

14. Save the project.

 

The FBox library regarding the exchanges of datas with the Panels ESA (PCD7.D7xx) and PCD controllers is available for PG5 2.0 and can be used also in PG5 2.1, PG5 2.2 and PG5 2.3.

The FBox library is attached to this FAQ

On PG5 2.1, PG5 2.2 and PG5 2.3 a warning will be shown on the library manager 'BAD VERSION NUMBER' but it's possible to use the FBoxes in Fupla without problems

 

The display has a frozen screen (can be black if in standby mode) and can't be operated.

After a powerup the project's start page is displayed but it might be that the touch screen doesn't respond, because the calibration has been lost.

 

 

Solution
The booter and the firmware need to be updated.
If it isn't possible to force the display in transfer mode (download mode) it is necessary first to recalibrate the screen following the description. See FAQ 100868 (see link below).
All displays produced since 16/07/2010 have the new booter.

Procedure to update booter and firmware
If you use PCD8.D81W software version 5.22 skip to point 4 directly or point 5 if the display has already a new booter:

1.  Download the files attached to this FAQ and unzip the archives.
2. Copy the bootloader files 'BT525MTF.FIL' into the following folder:
   'C:\Program Files\SAIA\PCD8.D81W_51x\\boot\'
3. Copy the firmware files "VT525W.BIN" into the following folder:
   'C:\Program Files\SAIA\PCD8.D81W_51x\\firmware\'
4. The boot has to be sent via the bootloader download utility. In PCD8.D81W (programming tool; select the menu TOOLS / BOOT UPDATE-AUTOMATIC), enter the password 371013 and follow the instructions.
5. Open the project, compile it again and download it to the panel and active the download option 'Update operating unit firmware'. Remark: during the download the Boot version is desplayed: version 3.9
6. When the download has finished, after a powerup of the panel, please verify that the new firmware version is
   - 1.13 for PCD7.D763

Remark
Please note that the PCD8.D81W version 5.22 (VTWIN 5.22) CONTAINS this new booter and FW version!
It can be downloaded with this link:
sbc-support.ch/download/pcd8_d81w_v5_22.zip
It is mendatory to use this new FW only on panel having this new booter!

 

The 7.5" STN VGA displays PCD7.D776 and PCD7.D776ET have been discontinued and phased-out in November 2009.

 

As the manufacturer of the displays PCD7.D776(ET) has discontinued these types, SBC has phased out these products by November 2009.
As replacement product the MB Panel PCD7.D410VTCF is recommended.

Repair service
The repair service for the above mentioned displays will be maintained until 31.12.2013.

Remark
The ESA reference for the concerned displays is VT 575W APS00SA and VT575W OPSETSA.

 

When a PCD7.D7xx display visualizes the resources from several PCD stations (more than 3) over Ether S-Bus, some stations don't respond or respond with the ressources from other stations!

 

 

Symptom
When a PCD7.D7xx display visualizes the resources from several PCD stations (more than 3) over Ether S-Bus, some stations don't respond or respond with the ressources from other stations!
The PCD7.D7xx has been programmed with PCD8.D81W version 5.12 or 5.18.

Reason
This pheonomenon is caused by a wrong handling of MAC addresses in the Ether-S-Bus driver from the panel, the MAC addresses of the IP stations are not correctly updated.

Solution
By updating the driver of the concerned panel, the described behaviour can easily be corrected. Therefore please:

• download the attached version of the Ether-S-Bus driver (tcp_sbus.BIN)
• unzip it and copy it to:
  C:\Program Files\SAIA\PCD8.D81W_518\firmware\
• Compile the project and download it to the panel

It is possible that gaps in trend from logs are visible in the browser if the "load info & data" of the macro "Trend" is executed after a longer time interval than the data memory size available in the PCD allows to store!

 

Symptom
It is possible that "holes" in "HDLog to DB" trends are visible in the browser if the "load info & data" of the macro "Trend" is executed after a longer time interval than the data memory size available in the PCD allows to store!


Reason
The trend data's loaded from the PCD are stored temporarily on the memory of the Web browser.
The gaps can occur if the displayed time range on the browser is bigger than the data logging ringbuffer on the PCD.

Example
The log date size is 100 KByte data with a frequency of 1 log per seconds.
As 1 KB is 1024 bytes, there are 102400 bytes (100 x 1024 bytes) available for the trend.
1 log entry including time stamp (date/hour/value) takes 8 bytes.
As result, the available DBs on the PCD are filled up after 12800 seconds (102400 bytes / 8 bytes) which corresponds to 3h and 33 minutes. 

If the "load info & data" is executed at at 8.00 PM and again at 12.00 PM, a gap of 26.66 minutes will be displayed between the two ranges of logs.
At 8.00 PM the data's from 4.26.66 PM to 8.00 PM are loaded from the PCD, stored in the temporary memory of the browser and displayed on the browser.
At 12.00 PM, the data's from 8.26.66 PM to 12.00 PM are loaded from the PCD, added to the data's loaded before at 8.00 PM and stored in the temporary memory of the browser.
All data's (from 08.00 PM and 12.00 PM) are then displayed on the browser.
No recorded data is available between 8 and 8.26.66 PM because the data recorded in this period has been overwritten by the ringbuffer on the PCD.

Note
If the browser is restarted or if a "clear Log" is exectuted then the gap disappaers because the temporary memory of the browser is cleared and trend shows only the last data's (3h33.33) uploaded from the PCD!

 

It might happend that the touch area of a PCD7.D7xx panel doesn't respond anymore: In this case most likely the calibration has been lost and the touch area has to be recalibrated. In many cases the loss of the calibration can be avoided by a boot and firmware update (see related link below)!

 

Procedure for recalibrating the touch screen

• Switch off the panel
• Open the back cover (4 screws)
• Locate the single jumper J1 or J5 also indicated with C
• Move the jumper on the position C
• Swicth the power on
• Calibrate the screen with a fine pointer (on the cross 3 times)
• Swich the power off
• Move the jumper to the inital position
• Close the cover
• Switch the panel on

More details about the calibration with drawings for each panel type are available in hardware manual 405_1200_037 which is availbale on the PCD support page:
www.sbc-support.ch/pcd7/dxxx/d7xx/pcd7d7xx.htm


Important
Always use the latest PCD8.D81W version: the actual version is 5.22. In this version some boot / firmware versions have to be updated, see related link to the FAQs 100823 and 100716!

 

The display has a frozen screen (can be black if in standby mode) and can't be operated. After a powerup the project's start page is displayed but the touch screen doesn't respond, because the calibration has been lost!

 

Solution
The firmware (PCD7.D761) needs to be updated! The firmware update is done when downloading the project to the panel when the option "Update operating unit firmware" is activated.
If the display can't be forced in transfer mode (download mode) it might be necessary first to recalibrate it as explain in FAQ 100868 (see link below).
Use the latest PCD8.D81W 5.18 version which contains the newest FW!
If you haven't le possibility to use this version and you have the version 5.12 you can also add the new Fw in attachment. So, please execute the following steps:

• Download the files attached to this FAQ and unzip the archives.
• Copy the firmware files "VT155W.BIN" into the following folder:
  "C:\Program Files\SAIA\PCD8.D81W_512\\firmware\"
• Open the VTWIN project, compile it again and download it to the panel and active the download option "Update operating unit firmware".
• When the download has finished, after a powerup of the panel, please verify that the new firmware version is: 1.13.

New: Use the actual programming tool version PCD8.D81W V 5.18 which contains already the new firmware version. So no need to copy the fw files in attachment!

 

If alarms are activated on a PCD7.D776, it might happened that the screen loses its contrast over the operating time (it become darker and it is very difficult to see properly)!

 

• Update the boot loader by using PCD8.D81W; function "TOOL" --> "BOOT UPDATE" à automatic, use the code 371013.
• Open the project, compile again and then re-download the project.

Procedure for resolving the problem on a PCD7.D776 Rev. 2
In this case the device needs to be returned to your local Saia-Burgess Controls AG sales office for applying a hardware modification.

Remarks

Only in the programming tool version V 5.18 and newer, the new firmware and boot versions for the PCD7.D776 are included!

 

Web Editor 5.07 Project with Microbrowser V1.5.07.074

URL Jump doesen't work!

 

    Web projects built with WebEditor 5.07 need the Microbrowser Version V 1.5.076b7.

    Contact PCD Support

 

A VT Win project which had a size of a few MBytes becomes after storing more then ten time bigger (100-200MBytes).

 

 

Problem
The size of the project increase after storing to a really hughe size.

 

Reason
If unicode fonts are used which are not present in the PC the project can become so big because each character has to be stored as bitmap.

Solution
Check the fonts you are using and change to a font which is installed on the PC.

 

Notebooks without RS232 COM-ports need a USB-Port and a USB to RS converter in order to connect a PCD over a serial line. Our experiences has shown that the driver software from some USB to RS-232 converters do not work in all cases (or not at all). This is why SBC tested various converters.

 

Please refer to the following list of converters which have been tested and found to be working fine with PG5 1.4, 2.0 and PCD8.D81W (for programming PCD7.D7xx displays, version V4.68 and later).

• Moxa UPort 1110 (RS232) and Moxa UPort 1130 (RS422/485)
  Works on Windows XP and Windows Vista for PG5 1.4 and PG5 2.0
  www.distrelec.ch
  
  
• BAFO BF-810   www.bafo.com
  works on Windows 98, 2000, XP
  
  
• ICP-DAS "I-7560"  www.redacom.ch
  
                               
• Converter USB2.0 to serial #61460 from www.delock.com
  tested on Windows XP, Vista and Windows7 (for Win7 the latest driver is required, see attachment)
  

Remark
Please note that a PCD8.K111 PGU programming cable is still required in order to connect in PGU mode to a PCD (the USB to serial converter does "create" an RS232 port on the PC but it does not cross the Rx/Tx lines which is necessary for RS232 connections).

 

It is possible setting the clock of the terminals by passing a command from the PCD to the command area of the terminal.

There is an FBox library that was built for this task and eases the handling of the command area and the exchange of the data to be transferred.

 

Functional description
In general the clock of the intelligent terminals PCD7.D7xx can be set by writing the according command into the command area. The command area is an array of registers that are periodically read (and end interpreted) by the terminal (masters of the communication).
The attached FBox library is designed to interface with the command area of the intelligent terminals of the series PCD7.D7xx.
Please refer to the help for detailed instructions and examples.

 

Supported functions of the attached library
The attached library does not only allow setting the clock of the PCD7.D7xx but does also allow writing all other supported commands to the terminal. Depending on the type of the terminal this is e.g. deleting the alarm buffer, forced jump to a specific page/sequence, reading the status area etc. Please refer to the ESA manual for a list of the functions supported by your terminal.

 

Installation
For installing this library, copy the files of the attached archive into the folder "Libs\Usr" in your PG5 installation directory (default C:\Program Files\SAIA-Burgess\PG5 1_3\Libs\Usr\) and reopen Fupla.

Note
Please note that the FBox library can only work if the command area on the intelligent terminal is defined and the addresses of the command area is set correctyl on the terminal as well as in the FBoxes.

 

On a Profi S-Bus network when PCD7.D76_ terminals are connected to PCD3.Mxxx or PCD2.M480 PLC's over Profi S-Bus, the terminal loses the communication after some time and get even frozen. This problem is corrected in the new boot, FW and driver. The PCD8.D81 V 5.09 is needed , the attached files have to be copied in it (see procedure below).

It is also necessary to update the PCD3.Mxxx and PCD2.M480 FW with the version PCD3.Mxxx_023.blk / PCD2.M480_$27 or newer! Ask the PCD technical support or your representation for it!

 

Attached you can find the new boots, firmwares and driver that resolve the problem with the Profi-S-Bus network.
The booter file " BT155MTF" and BT525MTF have to be copied in the following folder
C:\Program Files\SAIA\PCD8.D81W 5.09\Boot

NEWS: In the latest version PCD8.D81W V 5.12 contains all thoses updated FWs, drivers and boots! Ask the technical support or your representation for it!

 

Since the version V5.07, it is possible to import the global symbols from a Saia PG5® project. Because the online help doesn't explain the import procedure correctly, you can find a corrected version attached to this FAQ!

 

If you need an update of your VTWIN version to this beta version, please contact your local Saia-Burgess Controls AG representative.
The beta version 5.09 is now available!

 

Newer intelligent terminals PCD7.D7xx do support Profi-S-Bus communication. This FAQ contains a document that describes the wiring for this communication.

 

In general the Profi-S-Bus communication is handled over the MSP port of the terminal. The attached document contains information regarding cable specifications, wiring information and possible lengths for the communication between a PCD and a VT.

Additial notes
No bridges on the 25 pin D-Sup (MSP port) are required.
Minimal version of the programming tool (PCD8.D81W or VTWIN) is 4.82. 

 

On Profibus Network it is important to use the right cable and connector as the communication speed goes up to 12 Mbautes!

Those cable and connectors are used in Profibus DP, FMS, Profis S-Bus, Profi S-IO and MPI!

 

Wiring and Network termination should be as follows:

1	Shield
3	RxD/TxD-P
4	CNTR-P
5	DP GND
6	DP +5V
8	RxD/TxD-N
9	CNTR-N

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Supplier for 9-pole Profibus D-Sub connectors to connect PCD controllers to Profibus networks:

ERNI Elektrotechnik AG, Brüttisellen, Switzerland:

● ERbic junction, horizontal grey: Erni Ref. 103648
(junction fitted with series inductance of 110 nH)

● ERbic junction, horizontal grey:
with PG connector: Erni Ref. 103663
(junction fitted with series inductance of 110 nH)

● ERbic termination, horizontal yellow: Erni Ref. 103649
(junction fitted with series inductance of 110 nH
plus termination resistors of 390 Ω and 220 Ω)

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ERNI ERbic connector

The cable should be approved by the Profibus norm DIN 19245:

Attached 2 pdf files (both in french and german) of a swiss cable supplier Volland AG 8153 Rümland / Switzerland;

Ref.:    01 0217 0220 cable for fixed installation
            01 0271 0022 fexible cable

Note:    
If the bautrates isn't greater than 187,5 bautes (for ex. Profi S-Bus with PCD3.M3xx / PCD7.D7xx) you can use other more advantegeous cable, especially if the network segment is shorter than 600 meters!
See attached document "Annexe1 CI 2005_11"

 

Even it seems possible to configure Fkeys for up to 31 terminals in Menu Structure of the HMI Editor, it isn't supported!

 

Symptom
FKeys (PCD7.D79x, PCD7.D231, PCD7.D232), LEDs (PCD7.D232), Buzzer (PCD7.D23x) and the popup of the alarm buffer (all displays) are not supported in RS 485 Bus Terminals Topology!

Reason
Because the RS485 Bus Terminal Topology does use a specific protocol which does not support special telegrams such as the one used for accessing the LEDs or for evaluating the F-Keys, these features are not supported on RS485 networks. In case the LEDs, the F-Keys or the buzzer is required, please connect the display with RS232 to the PCD. 

 

Probably through the download the FW wasn't installed properly. The terminal is blocked and stays in a loop, rebooting constantly.

 

 

Solution: After the 1st check page, when the screen displays "Wait for boot forced", press the screen in diagonal in order to put it in transfer page. Download than the programme and the firmware again!

After this operation the terminal should be return to work properly.

 

In order to connect PCDs and PCD7.D7xxET terminals on a remote TCP/IP network the use of an ISDN router possible. Internal tests have proven that this is no problem.

 

In order to get an overview of possible problems that might occur while setting up and working wiht a remote IP network connected via two ISDN routers or an ISDN TA (terminal adaper) and an ISDN router the following  constellations were set up:

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In this test we used two AR140 ISDN routers (model number: AT-AR140S-513) of the manufacturer Allied Telesyn. This routers do have an integraded 4-port hub and a firewall (that wasn't tested in our test).

We didn't encounter problems for this constellation and found the following test results:

• It is possible to download projects of the PCD8.D81W (VTWIN) to PCD7.D7xx equipped with an Ethernet interface without someone on site

• The connection is established automatically in case of the use of two ISDN routers

• It is possible to download PG5 projects to PCDs (Ether-S-Bus stations) having an Ethernet interface

• A connection can also be established by first activating a dial-up connection and then adding a route (while the tests the added route over a Dial-up connection was removed at disconnecting)

• The networks can be defined by the user (no DHCP is required) on either network constellation

• Proxy servers and already existing network functions aren’t affected if properly configured (exception is the setup procedure of the ISDN routers due to the need of DHCP and set proxy addresses onto the routers!)

• All cables in the installation aren’t crossed (since the internal hub of the routers do feature an uplink which has to be set to “Hub” in case the connection PC-Router is going over an hub (hub-hub connection which would require a crossed cable if no uplink port were available))

For further information please refer to the test report (attached to this FAQ, file "ISDN-Router.pdf").

 

If the screen has not been touched for a long time, the screen of the display stays blocked. Only a powerup does reactive it!

In order to avoid this situation, it is necessary updating the boot with the programming tool PCD8.D81W.

 

 

 

Boot update procedure 

• For PCD8.D81w (VTWIN) version 4.81 (but older than V5.12), please copy the attached firmware files into the directory Firmware of the PCD8.D81W! Since version of PCD8.D81W  V 5.12  these new FWs are already included!
• In the PCD8.D81W software, choose the function "Tools" --> "Boot update" --> "Automatic"
• Enter the following code for the update
  371013
• Put the terminal im transfer mode
• Leave all settings with default values: Baudrate 9600...
• For more details see in the software manual under Boot Update.
• After the update of the boot, the programme and the firmware have to be re-downloaded to the terminal!

Remarks
If the displays PCD7.D785 / D788 are produced from june 2005 only the Firmware update is necessary (no boot update is needed)!
NEW: The new FW for PCD7.D785 / D788 is for all terminals (Rev. 4 or newer and Rev. 3 or older)

 

The "PCD driver" of the PCD7.D7xx terminals is not supported by all PCD systems.

 

Symptom
When the communication driver "PCD driver" is used in a PCD8.D81w project, the communication works on the PGU Port (port 0) of a PCD2.M110 (or a PCD2.M120) but not on the following systems: PCS1, PCD2.M150/M170/M480/M5xx0 or on a PCD3.

Reason
The PGU mode of recent PCD systems is no longer based on the P800 communication protocol (which uses the obsolete communication protocol "Mode D"). The recent PCD2 and the PCD3 use S-Bus on Port 0, and the PCD driver on the terminal uses P800 protocol. Because the PCD7.D7xx terminals use the P800 protocol if the "PCD driver" is selected, the communication does not work on systems developed after the PCD2.M110/M120.

Solution
So there are 2 solutions possible:

• Use the S-Bus driver on the terminal (recommended): In this case the project has to be adapted accordingly and an S-Bus connection cable is to be used (according to our Workshop Documents).
• Only for PCD2.M150 and PCD2.M170: Modify your communication cable (Pin 6 should not be used, Pin 6 of PGU port =0). In the PCD program you need to add a "SASI Slave Mode D" with the parameters: RS 232, 9600, Parity, 7-E-1.
  This solution can only be applied on PCD2.M150 and M170 systems, but not on other systems (because the Mode D is no longer supported).
  See attached document for wiring information in this case.

The PCD7.D7__ET offer the possibility to download the programme over Ethernet, the display switch automatic to download mode. This functionality exist already on the display produce after may 24th 2004. For the display produce before that date a Boot update has to be done first.

Use the menu "Tools" / Boot update / automatic of the PCD8.D81W V4.73 software, use the numerical code: 371013 and follow the instruction. Attention: keep the default setting baurate of 9600 Bauts for the download.

Afterward a FW download may be needed.

 

 

Some of the PCD7.D7xx terminals are available with a Profibus DP option, but this solution is obsolete and we recommend other solutions

 

The Profibus DP option has the disadvantage that the terminal is a slave and the PCD must organize the data transfer. This means

• that an FB per terminal is running in the PCD, which that is creating a significant CPU charge
• that the reaction time after user interactions on the terminal gets slow

We therefore recommend other solutions:

• Profi-S-Bus is to solution to be used together with new Classic products like the PCD2.M480 and PCD3.Mxxxx, it allows to have several terminals and PCD's on the same bus and the terminals are active participants
• MPI is the alternative for xx7 PCD's
• Ether-S-Bus or Serial-S-Bus connections are very often an alternative as well
• an ESANET network is sometimes interesting, but requires an independent network among the terminals. One terminal acts as Server for the others (Clients). The Server terminal must have two serial ports, one of which connected to the PCD via S-Bus, the other connected to ESANET

The Touch Screen Terminal loose the calibration from time to time.

 

If you remark this problem on your terminal, it will be nessesary to update the bootloader. This is possible with the version of PCD8.D81W VTWIN 4.73 (or newer).

Bootloader Download:
Choose in VTWin: Tools/Boot update/Automatic
All settings should have default values. Baudrate 9600...
Code for download: 371013
After this bootloader update you have to calibrate your terminal like describen in the manual and download the FW (see FAQ 100195)

 

 

A PCD7.D7xx Terminal can access several PCD's in an S-Bus network, it is as well possible to have one gateway station in the network and access PCD's that are located in a subnet. The response timeout has to be adapted accordingly.

 

If the PCD7.D7xx Terminal has to access S-Bus participants that are behind a gateway station, they are defined in the PCD8.D81W software as if they were in the same network. As passing a gateway station adds delay to the communication, the timout value (default 500 ms) has to be significantly increased (in the terminal) according to chapter 6.6 of the S-Bus manual. With PCD8.D81W versions until 4.66 the timeout can only be defined for the whole network, later versions allow to define the timout per station. The timout settings of the gateway and slave stations stay usually untouched.

 

There are a couple of common causes in case of a lack of communication. Please take care of the points mentioned below.

 

There are basically three sources of errors:

• the wiring: check the attached workshop document for details, remember that in most of the cases 3 bridges are necessary on the MSP. Without these bridges there is no communication
• the kind of protocol selected: always use S-Bus, don't forget to check whether the S-Bus Station address configured in the PCD8.D81W Software does match with the S-Bus address of the PCD(s)
• serial port settings: the PCD7.D7xx Terminals use S-Bus Parity Mode and are always master, per default at 9600 baud. Make sure the serial port of the PCD is configured or assigned in S-Bus Parity Slave Mode in the right baudrate

On the Web-Editor8 it is possible to ‘transfer’ the user name and the password with the help of session containers, if a url jump to another PCD is executed.

This ‘transfer’ is used to avoid that the user has to enter again the user name/password on the other PCD/Web-Project and works very well on Java and on SBC MB panels.  

But if the Web-Editor8 project is displayed as HTML5 web page then it’s no more possible to transfer the user name/password between different PCD’s and the user has to enter after each url jump his user name/password.

The restriction is not on the Web-Editor8 but on the HTML5 Web-Browser.
Although the HTML5 Web-Browser would have SessionStorage properties, the content of the SessionStorage is cleared in the Browser after each url jump.
Look like that the deleting was introduced to avoid security issues on the Web-Browser

The single sign-on (SSO) authentication which would be suitable for this is not supported in the PCD.

Means that the only solution for HTML5 web pages is, that the user have to enter after each url jump his user name and password to access the web-pages stored on the PCD.

HDLog in WE8: why the navigation in WE8 View including a HDLog-Template  is very slow?

Problem:

You have a WE8 Project containing a view with a HDLog Template. If you display this Page with a Browser (IE/Firefox) the navigation is very slow. If you display this Page with the MB-App for windows or with a MB-Panel, the navigation works OK.

 

Solution:

Open the Device Configurator and check the Parameter “HTTP 1.0 Downgrade Enabled”. This Parameter must be disabled. If this is not the Case, you have to set it to “No”.

During Trend display on an MB Panel the following error message appears. "Out of memory heap 3"

Reason:

The MB Panel memory is divived in different partition called "heaps". The size of each available heap has a default value which can be increased when needed

 

 

Solution:

Acces to the MB Panel parameters by pressing a few seconds on the touch screen

Go to "System/Special/memory" here you see how much memory is used in each heap

By pressing "Setting" (at the page bottom) you access to the available Heap size where each one can be modified. Increase the Heap 3 to maximum 4096 (if needed).

Remark:

Don't increased the size of the other Heap is not necessary. The maximum MB Panel memory size can't be exceeded!

After update to Java Version 8 Update 45 and with the IMaster Java Version 5.15.03 you get this new message window.

 

 

 

Until now we have not e new IMaster Version neither there is a possibility to hide this window.

But you can use our MB App for Windows and you will not get this Window. See Link for more information.

Google released Chrome 42 and with it it disabled all NPAPI plugins by default. This means for us that the IMaster Java Applet will no longer run in Chrome by default.

 

 

Your Webproject look like this:

For now (until the end of 2015) the NPAPI can be re-enabled. To do so open chrome://flags/#enable-npapi in Chrome, click the ‘Enable’ link under ‘Enable NPAPI’ and restart your browser.

 

For more information please check the following Link http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/chrome.xml

If one updates in the Browser his HDLog Trends using the “Reload” button, the new historic trends are well loaded. Nevertheless, the focus of the view is not automatically set to the right, most actual, time. One always needs to scroll to the right to see the most actual logs.                 

With a very small, but precise modification, you can modify the behavior of the “Reload” button. This way, you will force the focus of the displayed trend to the most actual values. No need to scroll to the right in the time-axis anymore.

Here is the description how to proceed.

WebEditor 5:
- Ungroup the used macro from the family “SBCHDLogTrendMacro”
- Select the button “Reload”
- Go into the tab “Actions Set Variables”
- Modify the content of the “Value” field to write the constant “REINIT2” into the specific Container
  variable
- Regroup the macro and make out a template of this macro. So you can re-use it in your next projects

WebEditor 8:
- Select the macro of the family “SBCHDLogTrendMacro”
- Select the “Reload” button through the “Document Outline” window
- In the “Actions” tab you can see which function is called by the button
- Select this function
- Modify the function to do a “Write” “Constant” “REINIT2” into the internal variable
  “ROFST_AvCrvAction_INDCO.”
- You can create a new template out of this macro to be able to re-use it in your next projects
Side effect of "REINIT2":
The command "REINIT2" deletes all in the Browser cached Trends. All the cached Trends of the instance/macro, where the command "REINIT2" is executed will be deleted. This means, that all the Trends of the macro are newly loaded. This results in longer loading times as usually expected.

Please pay attention:
This solution works very well for the actual MicroBrowser Windows Applications (min. V138.2) and the MicroBrowser Panels. BUT, this mechanism doesn’t work with computer browsers that are using the Java Applet. The command “REINIT2” is simply ignored by the Applet v5.15.03. SBC will have to provide this feature in a next Applet version.

If on the Web-Editor8 a container variable is copied from the Web-Editor8 help file with copy paste in to the Web-editor8 painter, then it’s possible that not only the name of the variable is copied but also an invisible 'CR''LF' character.

In such a case, the container variable name does not correspond to the required name and the special action of this container variable is not performed.

 

Example with the container variable 'MB_InactivityCounter'
Copy form the Web-Editor8 file


Paste in the Web-Editor8 painter.


How to find out such variables?
Open the wvar file and check the ‘internal variables’ Tab.
The line of a variable which does have a at the end of the name is shown as a double size line.
Means that on the first line the name of the variable is shown and on the second line empty line is shown.



How to solve the problem?
On the wvar file do click with the right mouse key to the concerned variable and select rename.


On the next window put the cursor at the end of the variable name and press the Backspace button of your keyboard (the invisible will be deleted) and on the next step select all places where the variable should be replaced.


After the update the new and the old variable are shown in the wvar file and after clicking to the update button only the variable without is shown on the screen.

It could happen that the message 'File not found' is shown on the microbrowser app on your smartphone/handheld when trying to display the web-pages stored on the PCD.

 

It’s possible, that during the development of the web page in the web-editor8, a copy/paste of a PCD variable name in to a edit field of the web-editor8, does insert at the end of the PCD variable name a (non visible) 'CR''LF' character.

This 'CR''LF' character leads then to situation that the value of the PCD variable is not displayed during runtime and in the field the text ‘no such component found’ is shown.

 

How to find out if this 'CR''LF' character is present in the variable?
Do open the *.tcr file (located in the bin folder of the web-editor8 project) with an external text editor.

Each PCD variable should be displayed in one line as following:
My_symbolic_var_name;PDP,,PCD_absolute_address,Format; ; ;Format displayed on web-browser; ; ;

For example:
The register 2538 does contain the actual time of the PCD in the format HH:MM and does have the name 'Actual_time'.
In the *.tcr file, this variable should be shown as:
Actual_time;PDP,,R2538,D; ; ;HH:MM; ; ;

If a variable is displayed like this (splitted in two lines) in the tcr file:
Actual_time
;PDP,,R2538,D; ; ;HH:MM; ; ;

Then there is a 'CR''LF' character at the end of the variable name.

Ho to solve the problem?
In web-editor8, on the concerned edit field do change the text type from PCD to INT (so the field content will be cleared) and change again back to the type PCD.
Browse or enter the variable name like Actual_time with the keyboard
(do not use copy and paste of the name)
Compile the project and do check the tcr file with an external text editor.
Now the variable should be displayed in one line.
Actual_time;PDP,,R2538,D; ; ;HH:MM; ; ;

Remark:
Make attention also to not user the copy/paste function if you use the container offset option and you want to insert the internal variable name.
Actual_time+@COFF_my_offset@

 

Web pages stored on the PCD which where displayed without problems on the web-browser of the PC does show a Java warning message after the update of Java to the Java version 7, (update 6 or 7).

 

Symptom
If you want to display a web page on the browser of the PC then the following warning is shown on the screen:

Because there are a lot of the same warnings that appear, you have the impression that the click to Yes or No has no effect but in fact there is another identical message that will appear afterwards. There will be about 30 of these messages. This warning will appear independent of the version of the jar-file that is used in the project.

Solution for applications where the java applet IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar or IMasterXX7_5_15_02.jar is used:
Do download the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar version 5.15.0229 (with date from the 16.09.2013) stored on our homepage, section PG5 2.0/S-Web editor and do replace the existing .jar files in your project directory and/or to the PCD with the new one.
Do copy also the two files in to the S-Web editor 5.15.02 directory so that this files are also used for new projects.
This java applet version 5.15.0229 or later does contain the new certificate.

How to detect the version of the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar file?
Display the web-editor web page on the browser and do open the java console.
There the version of the java applet is shown as following:
§ix101566§


For PG5 2.1. 
Since the version $2.1.053 of PG5 2.1, the two jar files which does fix the problem are installed together with the S-Web Editor 5 and the S-Web Editor 8

Possible workaround for applictions where any version of the IMasterSaia/IMasterXX7 applet is used. 
A workaround for this problem is do change the following settings in the Java Control Panel.
The Java Control Panel can be found under Settings -> Control panel of the Windows operating system.
On the folder 'Advanced' so select the option 'Security, Mixed code (sandboxed....)' to 'Enable - hide warning and run with protections'
Close the browser and re-open the browser.


Remark
The same workaround is also available for Mac Computers which have Java from Sun Microsystems installed.

 

It is possible to change the favicon (icon in the tab of a browser) to your own wishes, in the following FAQ it is described how to proceed.

 

You can generate a favicon from your or your customers logo to be represented in the tab of the browser, as default a SBC web logo is displayed:



On the internet you can find tools to convert a picture (*.jpeg, *.png*.gif…) to a file called “favicon.ico”. This file is 16x16 pixel small, therefore it is recommended to use a simple logo. (favicon-generator.org)

The favicon icon must have the file name favicon.ico and has to be added in the webserver, either on a flash memory (folder: /webpages) or in the *.wsp file (Webeditor 5). After this is added in the web server the tab of the browser should look different:



For Webeditor8 you must set up the following options:



If the Webeditor program has to be downloaded to the program memory of the PCD (into a dbx), this can be done with the following webbuilder options:

In a WebEditor project we select to display a page that contains a SBCHDLogTrendMacro e.g. RemoteOffSavedTrdMinimal.

The trends are not displayed, but an error message appears that CSV-Files could not be loaded.

 

 

Symptom
The Applet tries to load the csv-file Filename_D120118.csv, but in the Fupla HDLog File FBox you haven’t configured to create data files per day, but per week or per month. The letter "D" in the csv files stands for "D"aily log file. Other combinations are also possible, as the applet would try to load the file Filename_W01201.csv or Filename_M1202.csv. But, perhaps, it was not configured this way round in the FBox. "W" stands for weekly file and "M" for monthly file creation.

Reason
This happens if you change afterwards the setting of the parameter "create data" in the HDLog FBox but you have already placed the Macro from SBCHDLogTrendMacro before in the Webeditor project. It's the same behaviour in PG5 1.4 and PG5 2.0.

Solution
After changing the parameter "create data" e. g. from day to week, you must delete the Trend macro that belongs to this FBox in the WebEditor project and replace it. The WebEditor feature "Project/Reload HDLog Files ..." doesn't solve this situation. After rebuild /download of the project the problem is solved.

 

When displaying a certain teq view, the MicroBrowser (MB Panel, CE Panel, iPhone & iPad App) stops working and displays the error message "file not found xxxx.teq" where 'xxxx.teq' is the name of the teq view from which the jump was executed. This problem occurs due to an invalid 'PLC-ID' inside a Macro used on the concerned teq view when compiled with a Web Editor 5.15.0200.

 

Symptom
All macros edited or created with a version between and including 5.14.30 and 5.15.0200 contain an invalid PLC-ID, this leads to either an error in the Message Box “Invalid PLC-ID” or to the fact that the MicroBrowser freezes when jumping to another page. When the MicroBrowser blocks, the message “file not found xxxx.teq” is indicated, where “xxxx.teq” is the name of the teq view from which the teq view jump was initiated.

Solution
Build the Web Editor project with a Web Editor 5.15.0221 or more recent, this eliminates the error.
The Web Editor 5.15.0221 is part of the PG5 2.0.220.

Remark
If it is not possible updating PG5 or the S-Web Editor, the option "Force Teq Files Saving as…" in the menu "Project Configurations" --> "Build Options" can be disabled in order to avoid the problem.


Other possible cause
The text PPO used for the password for ex. level1Pw, level2Pw, etc have no Format defined in the PPO list (Web-Editor 5) or der WVAR (Web-Editor 8) file.
They have to be defined with the Format "STRING"!

 

You try to access a File on the Web-Server of the PCD with the HTTP protocol e.g. with an Internet Browser. The Web-Server responds with the Error message File not found. (HTTP 404 Not found)

 

Problem
The Web-Server can't find the file although it is visible with FTP access.

Reason
This happens because the file system has just been formatted with the Memory management FBox before.


Solution
After formatting the file system with the Memory Management FBox it is necessary to switch off / on the PCD (remove 24V). For PCD3.R600 flash memory modules there is also another solution the SD-card can be removed and reinserted. After this operation the file can again be accessed with HTTP protocol.

Note
This inconvenience will remain on FW versions <= 1.16.xx but it will be corrected for future firmware versions. It won't be necessary anymore to switch off / on the PCD.

 

When displaying the alarm page on VGA Web Panel this error message appears in message window and the alarms aren't display!                 

It has always been possible to configure password levels in the Settings tab of the Web Builder. This configuration has been moved from the Web Builder to the Device Configurator if when le firmware version "From 1.14.00 or more..." is selected in the Device Configurator!

 

Symptom
The Webserver password levels (1 to 4, for no access over only readable to full access) configured in the Web Builder are no longer active after having updated the PG5 project and the PCD firmware to version 1.14.23 or more recent (and in the Device Configurator the option "Firmware from 1.14.xx or more recent" is selected).

Reason
Until FW 1.14.00 the password configuration was done over the Web Server Setting window:

Since the FW 1.14.00 the configuration of the web server passwords can also be done over the Device Configurator from PG5 2.0.150 or later with the following parameters:


Remark
As the configuration in the Device configurator has priority even if you have selected "Advanced parameters: NO" the configured passwords in Web Builder settings won't be working.
The configuration isn't loaded in the same place into the PCD memory as where the WebBuilder settings are loaded.

Solution
For new projects (on PCD1.M2, PCD2.M5 and PCD3 systems) we recommend to use the Device Configurator for the configuration of the webserver passwords. Therefore, configure the password over the Device configurator by choosing: "Advanced Parameter: Yes" (see screenshot above).

For "older" projects where the webserver passwords configuration has been done over the Web Builder settings the following possibilities exist:

• move the configuration from the Web Builder to the Device configurator or
• change the Device Configurator to FW Version parameter to "Before FW 1.14.00" (even the PCD has a FW version >= 1.14.00)

FAQ #101004 describes how to launch the Microsoft IE in the kiosk mode. But without additional settings the scrollbars are always displayed on the browser.

 

By default, the Webpages are displayed in the browser with a small border all around the web page. This effect forces the web pages to be slightly bigger than the specified size of the S-Web application defined in the S-WebEditor. That's the reason why the scrollbars of the browser are automatically displayed to access the entire web page.

How to disable the scrollbars?
If you don't want these scrollbars you can disable the automatically added borders by manually including a line in your "Start.htm" file.
This line sets the margin to "0" and disables the scrollbars.

Procedure
Open your "Start.htm" file in a text editor (e.g. Notepad) and manually add the line as shown in this attached screen capture:

 

Since the FTP server of the PCD has been developped, SBC suggested to use the freeware FTP Client Filezilla to access the PLC Filesystem.

Lately and with newest FileZilla versions we received several reports that there are difficulties with the FTP Client FileZilla (e.g. that the IMasterSaia.jar was not completely downloaded).

 

Symptoms
There were problems while downloading several files in parallel to the PLC Filesystem. And sometimes it wasn't even possible to download the IMaster.jar file, because there was infinite repetition of downloading from side of the FTP Client Filezilla. After a restart of the PC, FileZilla worked again properly.

Reason
Unfortunatley these phenomenons were often not reproducible in Murten and appear to be random. Therefore it is very difficult to pinpoint the reason for the problems.

Conclusion
As these problems are only concerning few installations we do not intend to "forbid" the usage of the the FTP Client FileZilla together with the PCD FTP Server. However, in case you are faced with the above mentioned problems we suggest to use another the FTP Client. One client with which we made very good experiences during the past yars is the one coming with the shareware "Total Commander" (shareware). "Total Commander" also exists as portable version.

In some cases increasing the timeout in Filezilla to 60 seconds helps.

Update 03.07.2013
On FileZilla there is an option to limit the transfer speed.
Switching on this speed limitation does allow loading without problems files to the PCD.

To enable the speed limit, click on the tachometer symbol (on the bottom right corner of the FileZilla window)


On the next window do select the option "Enable speed limits" and do set the values to 100/20 KiB/s.

 

The following error appears when attempting to open the web builder in a windows XP 32bits System.

"No license found on this computer, will run in DEMO mode." after the installation of PG5.2.0

 

 

Symptom
The following error appears when attempting to open the Web Builder from PG5 2.0 (on a Windows XP PC, 32bit):

“No license found on this computer, will run in DEMO mode. Limit is 2 HTML pages on the project”

Reason
The cause of this problem is that the library "SCRRUN.DLL" was not registered in Windows for some reason.

Solution
The SCRRUN.DLL can be registered by using the command "REGSVR32" from Microsoft Windows. "REGSVR32" (Microsoft© Register Server) is a command-line utility present in the Windows operating systems for registering and unregistering DLLs and ActiveX controls in the Windows Registry. The missing scrrun.dll is a Microsoft Script Runtime DLL Library.

Procedure for registering SCRRUN.DLL

• Open a Command Prompt (Start Menu --> Run --> COMMAND) and press ENTER
• Change directory to the WINDOWSSYSTEM: For XP systems, this is normally the folder:
  C:/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32
• Type the following command:
  REGSVR32 SCRRUN.DLL and then press ENTER
• You should see a successful confirmation message. If not, make sure you typed the command correctly (and that the command is executed in the correct directory).

If you open the standard status page on a PCD there are some additional parameters shown which aren't obvious.

 

You can display the status page of a PCD with the URL
(address of PCD)/status.htm



Please find the necessary informations in the following text.

Speed:
Time assigned to the Web Server task in milliseconds.
Range: 1..15
Default: 5
Requirements: PCD3Mxxxx, PCD2M5xxx, Firmware > 1.10.00

Priority:
Priority of the TCP Web communiction driver in the Web Server.
Range: 1..12 (1 means highest, 12 lowest priority)
Default: 10 (standard port) and 5 (command port)
Requirements: PCD3Mxxxx, PCD2M5xxx, Firmware > 1.10.00

 

The memory requirement of a "HDLog to File" FBox (log in csv format) is calculated as follows:

Possible records = 50% of memory capacity (in bytes) / required characters per record (in bytes). Further on the maximum amount of files per file system is to be considered (around 850 files per SD card).

 

Memory available on a 1 GByte SD card
1 GB SD Card (PCD3.R600 with PCD7.R-SD1024) has 1’073’741’824 bytes
Note: It is not recommended to fill the SD card completely; in general we recommend only using 50% of the available memory in case data is written (and deleted) regularly.
Further on the maxumum amount of files per SBC file system is 900 in total, and every directory counts as 20 files (because the folder "WEBPAGES" and "CONFIG" always exists, the maximum amount of files which can be created on a SD card is around 850 (860 to be precise).

Memory requirement of log files
The memory requirement of files created by the "HDLog to File" FBox (log in csv format) is calculated as follows:
Possible records = 50% of memory capacity (in bytes) / required characters per record (in bytes)

Examples

• Writing 30 values to an SD card
  In case 30 values are to be recorded:
  Each value has an average number of six characters (exp. 123,4).
  Each HD Log File FBox requires 30 characters for the date and timestamp.
  So 30 record sets, subdivided into 3 FBoxes requires about 270 bytes per record (rounded about 300 bytes per record, including date and time stamps).
  1 GB SD Card (PCD3.R600 with PCD7.R-SD1024) = 1’073’741’824 bytes
  This results in about 3,500,000 entries. Due to the fact that you should not fill the SD card over 50% there remain effective 1'700'000 entries.
  At a recording interval of 5 minutes the SD card has space for about 16 years, given one file per month is generated (--> 16 years * 12 files/year * 3 FBoxes = 576 files)
  
  

  Remark regarding this example
  In case one file is generated per week, after around 5.5 years it won't be possible creating more files because of the maxumum number of files per file system has been reached (5.5 years * 52 files/year * 3 FBoxes = 858).

  
  
• Writing 3 values to a PCD7.R550 memory card
  In case 3 values are to be recorded:
  Each value has an average number of six characters (exp. 123,4).
  Each HD Log File FBox requires 30 characters for the date and timestamp.
  So 3 record sets can be recorded with one FBox and requires 48 bytes per record (rounded about 50 bytes per record, including date and time stamps).
  1 PCD7.R550 module = 4'000'000 bytes
  This results in about 80'000 entries. Due to the fact that you should not fill the SD card over 50% there remain effective 40'000 entries.
  At a recording interval of 1 minute the memory module has space for about 1 month (28 days) 

 

The first generation of PCDs with integrated S-Web server did not support http-direct (e.g. the PCD1.M125, PCD1.M135, PCD2.M150, PCD2.M170, PCD2.M480) . Therefore the access of the S-Web Server must be realized using the free software "S-WebConnect" which is to be installed on a PC (accessing the PCD using e.g. Ether-S-Bus). Alternatively, an MB Panel can also access the S-Web Server (e.g. using Ether-S-Bus).

However, it is important to know that only one S-Bus client can access the S-Web Server over Ether-S-Bus at the same time!

 

Problem
By desing the S-Web Server of a PCD can only be accessed by one S-Bus connection per physical port (Serial-S-Bus, Profi-S-Bus, Ether-S-Bus). As result it is possible to access the S-Web Server over Serial-S-Bus and in parallel over Ether-S-Bus, but it is only possible to have one Ether-S-Bus Master which connects the S-Web Server.

That means it is not possible to access the S-Web Server of a PCD at the same time with the S-WebConnect (Ether-S-Bus) and the MB panel (Ether-S-Bus) because in this case the S-Web Server is accessed 2 times trough the same physical port (Ethernet Port).

Work around 
Here you can use the Web Connect as frontentd. The S-WebConnect will serialize the web requests and therefore avoid two parallel connections.

• The WebConnect creates only 1 connection to the Eternet Port of the PCD (Ether-S-Bus to a PCD1.M135 for example)
  --> there is no problem, because only one connection was created
• With the MB panel, instead to accessing the WebServer of the PCD directly (with the Ether-S-Bus protocol), the MP panel can be accessed indirectly via the S-WebConnect.

Example
For this example the following configuration is to be done in the MB panel configuration:

• HTTP direct
• Remost host IP of the PC (where the WebConnect is installed)
• as html file to open, you have to write: WebConnect_Connection_Profil/File_Name.html (htm)

For more information please refer to the manual for the "Web Server Classic" (26/790).

 

In case the dynamic space of registers is defined below 1000 or above 9999 the FBox HD Log to file cannot create the Logfiles correctly

 

Problem
If the dynamic space of registers is defined <1000 or >=10 000 the FBox HD Log to File is not able to create the Logfile correctly. The FBox is using interpreted text with $R commands. Due to a problem in the FBox this won't work for registers below 1000 since they only have 3 digits $Rxxx and the interpreted text needs 4 digits. Also in case the dynamic space is defined above 9999 the interpreted text won't work correctly, because the last digit is cut off by the firmware.

Solution
At the moment the dynamic space has to be defined >=1000 and <10 000 otherwise the FBox HD Log to File will not work correctly. The FBox library will be corrected for a dynamic space below 1000. To define the dynamic space above 10 000 a correction in the firmware will be necessary. As soon as a correction is available, this FAQ will be updated.

 

In some situations it is possible that the FBox "HDLog to File" is writing the same values several times (even if no change of value has been detected) to the *.csv file.

 

Symptom
When viewing the file creatd by the "HDLog to File" FBox it can be observed that in some cases several lines have been created (despite of the fact that the values did not change or the cyclic writing has not been due).

Reason
In case a "Write to file" command has been executed (and thus the buffer has been written to the file) and no new values have been written to the buffer, browsing the trends on the S-Web project could lead to re-writing the same (last) value to the file.

Solution
The FBox library version listed below do avoid the re-writing of an already written entry to the *.csv file.

• PG5 1.4.300: HDLog to file FBox library version 2.1.040
• PG5 2.0.110: HDLog to file FBox library version 2.6.150

There are different formats of GIF-files which need to be considered as not all formats/features are supported by SBC S-Web products.

 

In general there is a differentation between the GIF-file formats "87a" and "89a". The version "89a" includes all features from the version 87a but adds new features such as the possibility to provide animated graphics.
On all SBC products the format "87a" is fully supported while some features from the format "89a" are not supported on all devices (e.g. PCD7.D4xx).

Supported features on a MB Panel PCD7.D4xx

• Transparent GIF, if within the GIF less than 256 separate colours are used.
• GIF interlaced and non-interlaced – The GIF is drawn however in one go after full reception.

Restrictions related to *.gif files on the MB Panel

• Due to hardware relations, the QVGA Panel will not be able to display transparent GIFs
  
• Only the VGA Panel supports transparent GIFs in which case on the transparent pixel either the background or the inner colour setting is shown if this is configured. This inner colour drawing is also drawn on the full painter area and shown on the transparent pixel in the GIF image part that is below the outline under a dotted/dashed outline.
• A 3D border is not used.
• No split canvas / background and image frame handling (single full frame). For the canvas size the frame size is taken.
• No multi frame / image GIF file support (no animated / sequenced GIF). 
  For sequenced GIF file the first frame is taken. This may only partly display the wanted image.
  Note: The animated GIF macro from the S-Web Editor bases on a sequenced display of GIF files. The single gif files are not animated.
• No full colour support of the used 24 bit colours out of the given colour table.
  - On the VGA 16 Bit in a RGB 5-6-5 bit scheme is used, on the QVGA 8 Bit in a 3-3-2 Bit scheme is used.
  - For the colour rounding a grey scale nearest value is taken.
  - On the VGA the GIF uncompressing and this rounding can be checked using the screen dump feature
    that dumps the used RGB16, 5-6-5 code pixel code in an uploadable  uncompressed BMP16 file.
• No GIF meta information support, no GIF coded text support.

When using a GIF-files in format "89a" (incl. animation) the following phenomenons can be observed:

• everything works fine in the Applet 5.14.27 displayed on a PC

• display works, but no animation is done on a VGA MB Panel PCD7.D4xxV with firmware 1.12.11 and newer
  

• display doesn't work at all and only a rectangle with a red cross is displayed on a VGA MB Panel PCD7.D4xxV with firmware 1.12.11 and newer

Here are some possibilities how to generate or convert any type of picture into GIF format "87a"

• "GIMP": use the free graphical editor "GIMP" and save any picture as *.gif. If necessary select "fit picture" to not save an animated GIF when you're prompted. Just to be sure to generate a GIF file of format "87a".
  Get the most actual version of "GIMP" from the download website www.gimp.org/downloads/
  
• "Imagemagick": use the portable version of the conversion tool "Imagemagick" and run a batch-file to convert a whole directory of GIF-files into "87a" formatted GIF files.
  Download the portable version from www.imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php
  Copy the attached batch-file and the expanded zip file of "Imagemagick" into one directory. Also copy all *.gif files to be converted into the same directory.
  Start the batch file with a doubleclick. The converted GIF-files will be stored in a new directory named "gif87".
  

As soon as a curve is added to the HDLog to file macro it is not possible to compile the project anymore.

 

Problem
In Fupla the FBox HDLogFile was placed. In WebEditor the file is added under Project configuration and the according macro is added to a teq file. As soon as you add one trend-curve to the macro it is not possible anymore to compile the project. An errormessage similar to the message below appears:

Error 2009: WEB_PG.obj: Unresolved external symbol: __stc_id_0000C_var_00___SG_COB_Daten
Reason
This problem happens, if in Fupla the option "Use predefined symbols" is not activated. Since the HDLog FBox has internal symbols it is necessary to activate this option, to have the proper functionality.

Solution
Activate the option in Fupla under View/Options. In PG5 2.0 you have to activate the options:
Use predefined symbols: Yes
Delet internal: Yes
In PG5 1.4 you have to activate the options:
Use predefined Symbols
Delete internal symbols when the FBox removed

Then in the fupla you have to:
-right clic on the Fbox "HDLog" and choose "Add Predefined Symbols..."
-save the file

Then in the Web Editor you have to:
-remove the macro "HDLog"
-delete and select one more time the file *.HDF in the menu Project ->Configuration
-add the macro "HDLog" ,choose "Keep For All"

 

The alarm texts generated by DDC Suite are quit long and are in some cases not complete displayed with the default alarming macro. There's a description in FAQ #100711 how to modify the columns width. This FAQ contains an example which applies well to the screen dimensions of a VGA MB Panel PCD7.D4xxV.

 

Step-by-step example Web Editor 5

• In the Web-Editor 5 open the page with the alarming macro
• Double click the alarming macro, so that the window "GROUP" opens
• Select the tab "Cross Ref". In the cross reference list select entry "STRING "#sp;…."".
  The start position of the individual columns are defined in this string in the order: 
  StateColour, ID, Alarm text, Time on, Time off, ACK/NAK, Counter.
• Replace the default string by this string: "#sp;120,0,5,71,120,90,95\n" and don't forget to click 'update' to validate the changes.

Step-by-step example Web Editor 8

• In the Web-Editor 8 open the page with the alarming macro
• Rightmouse click in the alarming macro, choose "Cross Reference"
• Choose in the upper part for the "Filter by type" ALL
  
• Select in the Cross Ref Table the column with the Type "STRING "#sp;…."".
  The start position of the individual columns are defined in this string in the order: 
  StateColour, ID, Alarm text, Time on, Time off, ACK/NAK, Counter.
• Replace the default string by this string: "#sp;120,0,5,71,120,90,95\n"
  §Ix101640§
  

• The numbers entered stand for the percentage of the total width of the alarm list where the according column starts. So the "ID" column starts at 0% of the whole width of the alarm list, and the "Alarm text" starts at 6% of the whole width fo the list etc.
  The value 120 will disable the according column (in this example the "StateColour" and the "TimeOff").

As result, the alarm list will be drawn like the below attached screenshot:
§Ix101641§

Remark
Please note that the S-Web Editor 5.14.27 or later is required for this configuration (otherwise the "\n" will not work)

 

You can extend the HDLog FBox to log a maximum of 10 trend variables. If you want to log more than 10 trends, you'll have to place several HDLog FBoxes.

 

The HDLog FBox you place has to get a unique reference name. Because the CSV-file, that contains the maximum of 10 trend variables, is combined to this unique name. If you want to log more than 10 trends, you'll have to place an additional HDLog FBox with another unique name referenced. Because these additional 10 trends are logged into a second CSV-file combined to the second unique name. This means, that in one single CSV-file you can log a maximum of 10 trends.

 

There are some very useful recommandations / restrictions that should be respected when engineering an S-Web Editor project for VGA MicroBrowser Touch-Panels PCD7.D4xxV.

• The maximum size of a GIF-picture is 256 kB
• The maximum dimensions of a GIF-picture is 638 x 478 pixels
• It's recommended to use text fields that are around 20% larger than the text that is displayed in the S-Web Editor. For more details, please refer to the user's guide of the MB Panels on the support site.
• The maximum size of a displayed offline trend is 1024 kB
• A maximum of 512 painter objects can be displayed on one TEQ-view. Please note that also a simple line counts as an object. As reference: the "offline-trend" macro uses 40 objects
• According our experience, there can be displayed up to 320 registers or 500 flags on one single TEQ with reasonable speed
• One line in a TCR-file must not exceed 128 characters. This affects the choice of the size of a variable
• In a CSV-file, one line must not exceed 128 characters when programming in ASCII code, and 64 characters when programming in Unicode/UTF-16

When you use HTML tags in csv-file with the S-Web Editor 5.14.27, unused tags in *.csv files are detected (and the S-Web Editor asks whether to delete these lines in order to increase the performance of the panel in runtime).

 

In normal use you don't even remark this feature, because it's done in background when you delete a macro, for example.

Remark when using indexing
However, if you add on your own some HTML tags (i.e. when indexing variables with an expression like e.g. ...@Index_PPO@), the S-Web Editor detects that there are HTML tags that don't belong to any macro. It therefore asks you whether you want to remove these tags with the message:
'WARNING found HTML tags in csv files that are no more used in actual project. Do you want editor to delete those HTML tags?'
--> If you work with the above mentionned indexed variables, remember to click 'No'!

Remark
In the next service pack of the S-Web Editor (Version 5.14.30) this warning will have an option to hide.
This version is available in Service Pack 1 for PG5 2.0 (PG5 2.0.150). For PG5 1.4 the S-Web Editor version 5.14.30 can be downloaded from the support site.

 

The new WebServer 2 implemented in the PCD3 and PCD2.M5xxx supports caching and therefore the loading of the Java Applet can be avoided when reloading web pages. From firmware version 1.10.16 on you can profit of the caching possibility of the Java Virtual Machine.

 

How to activate caching?
To activate caching on the Java Virtual Machine you select on your local computer 'Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Java'. In the tab 'General', click on 'Settings' and under 'Temporary Internet Files' check the box for 'remain temporary internet files on the computer'.

Remark
Please note that in case an older firmware than 1.10.16 is loaded on the PCD, it might be that values of the web project are not refreshed correctly (see FAQ 100708).

 

When building a project with HDLog FBoxes the build fails with the message "Down.wsc Line xxxx Symbol not defined_stc_id_0016_var_00" or similar can be caused by an incorrect setting in the Fupla options.

 

Symptom
After having used the FBoxes from the family "Historical Data Logging" in a Fupla program for the use with a Macro for HD Log from file in the Web Editor the build fails. The error message indicates that symbols are not defined.

Reason
The HD Log FBoxes is creating automtically internal symbols for the use in the Webeditor macros. These symbols should be created automatically when adding the FBox to a project. If this is not the case the symbols are missing on build time and therefore lead to the error mentioned above.

Solution
you have to activate some options in the Fupla: Under View/Options:

• Use predefined Symbols
  If this is unchecked the FBox symbols are not created when adding the FBox. Make sure this optoin is checked!
• Delete the internal symbols when the FBox removed
  If this is unchecked the internal symbols stay in the symbol list, even if the FBox is removed from the project. It is recommended to have this option checked, too.
  

Remark
If the FBox is already part of the project you can add the internal symbols to the symbol list with right click on the FBox and choosing "Add predefined symbols".

 

When trying to compile an S-Web Editor project on a PC running a Chinese Windows the error message "DBX initialization data too big" is displayed and the build fails.

 

Symptom
When trying to compile an S-Web Editor project on a PC running a Chinese Windows the error message "DBX initialization data too big" is displayed and the build fails.

Reason
Due to a restriction of older versions of the S-Web builder it wasn't possible to compile a PG5 project containing an S-Web Builder project on a PC running a Chinese version of Microsoft Windows.

Solution
Since the version 2.0.100 of the S-Web builder it is possible to compile PG5 projects which contains a Web-Builder file on a PC with Chinese Windows.

Remark
Please note that the version Web Builder version 2.0.100 does not support "non ASCII characters" like for example Chinese characters on the *.htm/html or *.tcr files.
This means that it isn't allowed to define:

• a PPO name in the S-Web Editor which does contain a "non ASCII character" or
• a "PDP,,"-syntax wich contains a "non ASCII character" within an htm/html file

Where can I get the S-Web Builder version 2.0.100?
Please contact your local Saia-Burgess Controls AG representative.

 

Webpage doesn't get displayed at all when selecting an incorrect "base ppo name" in the trend macro.

 

Problem:
When trying to open the webproject the java applet is not loaded and the error message in the Java console is:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: IMasterSaia5_xx_yy.class.

Possible Reasons:
Wrong "Base PPO Name" selected.

Solution:
You have to enter the symbol name of the "Data DB" output of the "HD Init" F-Box.

 

In order to prevent that someone do copy the web pages which are stored on the file system (memory module) of the PCD, it’s possible to convert the content of the web-pages in a DB of the PCD with the use of the web-builder tool.

 

For S-Web editor project’s we do recommend to convert the *.teq files in the web-builder.

 

 

Using an indirect connection of the web-connect software on the CE web-panel (PCD7.D5xxx) it’s possible that a remote PC is able to load the web-pages stored on the PCD/PCS.

 

 

Requirement
On application the PCD/PCS is connected over serial line to a CE web-panel and the end user wants to display the web-pages stored on the PCD/PCS on the CE web-panel and on a remote PC.

Solution
With the help of the web-connect SW on the CE web-panel it's possible that the any PC on the TCP/IP network is able to establish an indirect TCP/IP connection to the web application stored on the PCD/PCS and to display the web application on the browser of the remote PC.

Open the web-browser on the remote PC and type the IP address of the CE web-panel, the connection name defined on the web-connect software and the name of the startpage in the navigation bar of the browser.
Example: 172.16.1.64/pcs/start.htm

172.16.1.64=IP address of the panel
pcs=web-conncect connection name
start.htm=name of the start page

Remarks
Instead of a CE web-panel there can as well be an ordinary PC, connected over the web-connect software to the PCD / PCS. The procedure is the same.
It is not possible to use a Microbrowser QVGA panel for this kind of connection.
The Microbrowser VGA panel doesn't support this functionality at the moment; but it's planned for the future.

 

When using text PPOs they have to be defined as STRING in the PPO list. Otherwise this can cause strange errors.

 

Problem
When opening the Web Application some strange characters are displayed on top of the page followed by a warning button inside the java applet.

The error message in the Java console is:
"java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: IMasterSaia5_14_00.class"
or similar.

Reason
Text PPO have to be declared as STRING in the PPO list. If there is no definition it won't work.

Solution
Define all text PPO as STRING in the PPO list.

 

The WebServer2 is a re-implementation of the previous WebServer on Saia PCD® COSinus systems and of course compatibel to the previous version.

 

History
The first implementation of a Web Server on PCD systems has been realized around the year 2000. With growing experience additional features and higher performance have been requested. In order to fullfil this requirement, the WebServer has been re-implemented (with the result of the WebServer2).

What is new in the WebServer2?
In general the WebServer2 is functionally compatible to the previous implementation. In addition the following new features are supported:

• HTTP 1.1 support
• HTTP caching is supported. As result the in FAQ 100708 is no longer to be applied; It is recommended to enable the caching for the JVM (option "keep temprary files on PC") when working with the WebServer2.
  
  Remark: If the caching is not enabled, you will not profit from the supported caching; it will then work as it has before with the previous WebServer. 
• Better performance
• Parallel acces to files is properly supported (acces is no longer interrupted if another client loads the IMaster applet)
• Multiple Web clients can access the Web Server on the same physical interface with (Ether-S-Bus or Profi-S-Bus)
• Easier understandable error messages
• When texts are entered, the length of the text is specified (and no longer filled up with space characters)
• The WebServer2 does provide more information on the default page and has a nicer look. By viewing this page it is easy figuring out whether the WebServer2 is running on a PCD
  

  View of previous WebServer	View of WebServer2

Firmware (FW) supporting the WebServer2
The table below indicates the first firmware versions supporting the WebServer2. Systems not listed in this table do not feature the WebServer2.

PCD system	pilot FW version	production FW version
PCD2.M480	1.09.38*)	-
PCD2.M5xx0	1.09.38*)	1.10.16
PCD3	1.09.38*)	1.10.16

^*) Please note that in the first pilot firmware not all features have been supported.

Remark
The only incompatibe difference between the previous WebServer and the WebServer2 concerns users that use the "HTML forms":

• The previous Web Server used:
  %%TAG%
• The WebServer2 expects (the "value" is no longer automatically added by the Web Server):
  value=%%TAG%

An example for the HTML forms on the WebServer2 can be found in the attached document.

 

This Time Allocation has only an influence on the old systems PCD2.M1x0. For all new NT systems like PCD3.Mxxx and PCD2.M5xxx it has no influence.

 

Web Server Time Allocation:
In the Webbuilder under Settings it is possible to choose the "Web Server Time Allocation". You can choose between "Low", "Medium" and High" Priority. This will change the priority of the Webproject. With high priority the Webproject is treated more often. Otherwise the program on the CPU will be slower.

Important:
This setting has only an influence on the old systems PCD2.M1x0. For the new NT systems like PCD3 and PCD2.M5xxx it doesn't has any influence.

 

In some cases the address bar of the Windows Internet Explorer (IE7) is not desired and shall be removed.

 

To hide the address bar on the Windows Internet Explorer or to put IE7 into fullscreen mode just execute the following steps:

• Open "Run..." from the Windows start menu
• Type: "gpedit.msc"
• On the new displayed window "Group policy" browse to the menu:
   User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Internet Explorer\
  There are many options here which you can enable.
• If you enable 'enforce full screen mode' then that will hide and disable everything except the status bar.

The error message is shown, if the browser on the PC does need a java applet and the java applet is not loaded.

Web-Pages which are created with the S-Web editor does need a java applet.

 

Problem
On the webpanel (Microbrowser) the webpage is visible and works fine, because the java applet is integeated in to the firmware of the webpanel.
But if the webpage is displayed on the browser of the PC, then the browser needs to load the specifc java applet to be able to display the webpage correctly.
If the browser is not able to load the Java applet then the follwoing error message is displayed on the Java console:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: IMasterSaia5_xx_yy.class.

Reason
The reason for this behavior is, that the browser on the PC is not able to find the IMasterSaia.jar file.

Solution
Add the IMasterSaia.jar file to the PCD either by selecting the file in the web-builder or by copying the file over FTP to the flash card of the PCD.
In case Webconnect is used for the connection it can as well be placed in the Webpages folder on the PC.
 

 

If on a web-page with trending or alarming after clicking the button "Save Logs to file" the Web-Application is no more reacting then it’s possible the Java security settings are the reason of this trouble.

 

Symptom
The Web application running on a PC (e.g. in the Internet Explorer) does no longer work after the button "Save Logs to file" has been clicked.

Reason
In this case it is very likely that the security settings of the browser does not allow the Java virtual machine (VM) to access the file system.

Solution
Please refer to the chapter "Java Security Settings (For Microsoft VM)" in the attached extract of the manual of the S-Web Editor. Alternatively, you can also refer to the on line help of the S-Web Editor (refer to chapter "Java Security Settings (vor Microsoft VM)")

 

During the use of the Internet Explorer on a Panel eXP, it can happen that the values of the PCD are not refreshed during several minutes.

 

Symptom
The values of PCD medias (PPOs) shown on a eXP Web Panel (PCD7.D6xxx) are freezed from time to time for a couple of minutes. If during this time a page is changed, no values are shown at all. This phenomenon can be observed when using the Web Editor 5.13.00. This can happen after several hours of service.

Reason
This freeze of the values is caused by a problem in the Java Applet IMasterSaia5_13_00.jar distributed together with the Web Editor 5.13.00.

Solution
To solve this problem, please load the new Applet 5.13.00 (attached to this FAQ) into your web project.

 

This error message appears if the used firmware on the CPU does not support the "active and non ACK" filter for the S-Web alarming functionality (e.g. a PCD2.M150 with firmware 0D3).

 

Symptom
Instead of the alarm list of the S-Web alarming macro, the message "Failed to get data on alarm.exe" is displayed on the alarming page.

Reason
The reason is that the macro tries receiving the alarms filtered by the "active and not acknowledged" state of the alarms. This does only work if this feature is implemented in the according firmware.

Solution
Please update the firmware (FW) of your PCD system to the firmware supporting the according feature (see table below).

System	minimal FW
PCS1.Cxxx	0E3
PCD1.M1x5	0E3
PCD2.M150	0E3
PCD2/4.M170	0E3
PCD2.M480	1.08.21*)
PCD2.M5xx0	1.08.19
PCD3.Mxxx0	1.08.23*)

^*) On PCD3 and PCD2.M480 systems the "active and not acknowledged" filter has already been implemented in previous versions, but has been improved this indicated version.

 

The alarm appears correctly but the alarm text is missing.

 

Possible Reasons: 

• The name (name and reference) of the Fbox Alarming is too long. It can be maximum 20 chars. 
• The alarm texts should be in a .csv file but the file was not created
• The csv file was created but the alarm texts where not adapted correctly. The formatting has to be as in the example below:
    A.Alarm.ThisAlarmList.MyName_1;First Alarm
    A.Alarm.ThisAlarmList.MyName_2;Second Alarm
    A.Alarm.ThisAlarmList.MyName_3;Third Alarm
  The first part should not be modified. The part after the ; is your alarm text and can be adapted as you like
• In Project/Project configuration/Project-Applet advanced the option HTML Parameters in csv file is not activated or it is activated but the csv file containing the alarm list is not chosen in the field "csv file".
  

Yes, it is possible to store the web pages (.teq, .htm, .html, IMaster.jar, .gif etc.) on the panel instead on the CPU itself.

 

In general it is possible storing data (pictures, files) directly on the Web Panel. The only file which always needs to be stored on the PCD is the file with the extension tcr. Depending on the panel, specific techniques and storage folders are available:

Micorbrowser Panel PCD7.D4xxx (MB Panels)
Data can be stored on the onboard Flash memory "M1_Flash" (in the folder M1_FLASH/WEBPAGES). This data is to be downloaded over an FTP connection (further information can be found in the manual SBC FTP Server and SBC Flash File System, 26/855).
Quickguide:

 

• Configure an IP address on the panel.
• Open an FTP client (active FTP mode) and connect to the MB Panel
  Username: root
  Password: rootpasswd
• Download the files to the folder "M1_FLASH/WEBPAGES" 
• If the same files are present also on the PCD, specify "Search files first local".

The MB Panel will search these files independently on the configured communication type to the PCD (http direct, Serial-S-Bus etc.)

CE Panel PCD7.D5xxx / eXP Panel PCD7.D6xx
On a CE- or eXP panel data can only be stored locally if the WebConnect software is used. In this case, data can be stored on the storage card in the Webpage folder (the folder location can be configured in WebConnect). Hint: whenever possible, use the http direct protocol, where WebConnect 2.0 and later can act as proxy.

 

Yes, it is possile storing files directly on the flash File System of an MB Panel. By doing so, the page will be displayed faster because these files do not need to be transferred over the communication interface.

 

Can I store any file of the Web Project on the MB Panel?
In fact, all the files of the Web-Editor project can be saved locally on the panel except the *.tcr file. This file contains the definition of the global variables of the PCD (PPO variables) and must remain in the user program of the PCD (added to the project by using the Web Builder). All the other files can be stored on the local Flash Card of the WebPanel.
 
How to store the files to the MB Panel?
The files can be transferred via an FTP connection (user: "root", password "rootpasswd") to the "M1_FLASH" directory of the MB Panel file system. For further information regarding accessing the file system of the MB Panel, please refer to the manual 26/855 (Manual File System) which can be found on the support site (www.sbc-support.ch) in the product section for the PCD3.

Remark
The directory "INTFLASH" shouldn't be accessed by the user and no data should be saved in this directory.

 

Yes, if you use version 2.0.31 of the Web-Builder or later you can access to variables like Ressource_name_of_PG5[2].

 

 

With the old Web-Builder it was not possible to use symbolic PG5 resource names if on the Web-Builder the container offset where used.

On the old Web-Builder you have to use the following syntax:

PDP,,R100+@COFF_index@

 

Since the version 2.0.31 of the Web-Builder it is possible to use the symbolic name of the PG5 like

Ressource_name_of_PG5+@COFF_index@

 

 

 

The old version of the Web-Builder supports only registers with addresses < than 10000 (4 digit values).

Register addresses > than 9999 are supported since the version 2.0.31 of the Web-Builder.

 

 

 

Yes it is possible to use a kind of life sign on the XP, CE and MB Web-Panel (created with the S-Web-Editor) and to read this life sign on the PCD.

This allows to know if the connection between the PCD and Web-Panel is ok and if the Web-Application on the Web-Panel is running.

 

 

To insert the life sign you have to use the container variable @BLINKCO on the S-Web-Editor.
During runtime this container toggles each refresh period between 1 and 0 on the XP, CE or MB Web-Panel.
To transmit the container @BLINKCO to the PCD, you have to copy the container to a PCD variable and you have to check on the PCD application programm, that the PCD variable does toggling cyclically.

To copy the container @BLINKCO to a PCD variable use the macro “EventP_wrCo2ppo_onRepaint_.tlb” of the S-Web-Editor.
You can place the macro on a background page and use the same background page on all your Web-Pages.

To avoid that the life sing is not toggling during the time that the Web-Pages “MsgBox.teq”, “ALPHAPAD.TEQ” or “KEYPAD.TEQ” are shown on the screen, you have to insert the macro “EventP_wrCo2ppo_onRepaint_.tlb” also on this pages.
Please note that you have to insert the macro directly on this three pages.
It’s not allowed to use a background or foreground page on this three pages.

Remark:
If several Web-Panels does display the same Web-Application of the same PCD then on the PCD the life sing will be overwritten from all Web-Panels and it’s not possible to detect if one Web-Panel is no more working.

 

The use of two ports allows the user to make a prioritization of the web-requests.

 

If http-direct is used, then the Web-Server on the PCD3 and PCD2.M5 CPU’s is accessible over two different socket ports. The default ports are socket port 80 and 81.

It's possible to change the port number with the use the Device Configurator of PG5 2.0 (SP1 or later). To change the port number see the FAQ 101464.

Working principle
The use of two ports allows the user to make a prioritization of the web-requests.
If for example there are 4 devices (A, B, C and D) which do access the S-Web server of the PCD then the user could force the device A, B and C to access the port 80 of the PCD and the device D does access the port 81 of the PCD.
In such a case the requests of the devices A, B and C are queued in the Web-Server socket queue 80 and the request of the device D is queued in the Web-Server socket queue 81. The web server on the PCD does treat both ports evenly.

In the example above the requests of the device D are treated about every 3rd cycle. The requests of the device A, B or C are treated about every 7th cycle.

 

The index of the Alarmlist FBox does always start with 1 (and not with 0). If more than one Alarmlist FBox is in use, the index has to be adjusted in the following way:

 

Example:
The first FBox is an Alarm 10 F-Box and has the Index 1
The second FBox has in this case Index 1+10 = 11
If the second FBox is an Alarm 20 FBox, the third FBox has Index 1+10+20=31

 

Once the used password page has been activated, the password page cannot be deactivated any more until next reboot.

 

In order to deactivate the Web server password page, switch off the PCD (with power off/on). Note that a new program download and/or a CPU coldstart does is not sufficient for resetting the password page.

 

If a negative value (for instance -0.7) should be displayed on the CE panel, there is just -.7 visible. The zero is missing. A new microbrowser version is solving the issue.

 

Reason
This was a problem in the Microbrowser distributed with the image $2.0.27.0.

Solution
Install the new Microbrowser 1.5.10.091d or newer. Ask the support team for the latest version. Replace the Microbrowser.exe and in the Windows folder mfcce400.dll

 

Since the first version of the Web Editor has been released there has been many functionalities added. In parallel, new functionality has been added in PCD firmware, Micro Browser Panels (MB Panels PCD7.D4xxx), CE Panels (PCD7.D5xxx) as well as on eXP Panels (PCD7.D6xxx). This FAQ contains a function matrix that gives further information regarding the added functionalities and dependencies.

 

Introduction
The various features of pages created with the Web Editor do require functionalities of the PCD firmware as well as of the panels/PC systems used. Depending on the panel or PC, these functionality needs to be implemented in:

• The PCD firmware itself. The PCD firmware can be downloaded from the according product section on the support site.
• The firmware (of an MB Panels if used). The MB Panel firmware can be downloaded from the product section PCD7.D4xx from the support site.
• The image (if a CE- or eXP panel is used). The according image can be downloaded from the product section PCD7.D5xxxx (CE) or PCD7.D6xxx (eXP) from the support site.
• In the IMasterSaiaxxx.jar (for the usage of a web browser running on a PC). The IMasterSaiaxxx.jar is distributed together with the Web Editor and will be copied into the PG5 project by the Web Editor. The Web Editor itself can be downloaded from the Application overview page "S-Web" on the support site.

Supported features by panels and the Web Editor
The table below shows the first version of the Web Editor supporting various features. Additionally, the required version of the panel operating system is shown, too.

Web-Editor functions	Web Editor	MB Panels QVGA (FW version)	Web-Editor (MB version)	eXP Panels (IMaster.jar )	PC/Laptop (IMaster.jar)
New PG5 Symbol selector with group support	5.13.00	-	-	-	-
New Macro format incl. gif & PPO min/max & unit	5.13.00	-	-	-	-
Validation of user entered values for date & time for PPOs	5.13.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
New Alarming macros for 3.5" MB Panel with F-key operation	5.13.00	1.08.01	-	-	-
New filter "Active or NAK" in Macro DefOnline Alarming	5.13.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
Alarming & Trending Date/Time display format configurable	5.13.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
Browser resp. applet loads only 1 page				5.10.00	5.10.00
Alarming (with extension for ACK by user program)	5.07.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.07.00	5.07.00
Support of Unicode character set (only for the display of texts in the browser by the use of "HTML tags")	5.07.00	V1004	1.5.10.082c	intern. JVM required	intern. JVM required
Multi line painter	5.07.00	V228	V1.5.072	5.07.00	5.07.00
Web-Editor zooming	5.07.00			5.07.00	5.07.00
Hide & disable group	5.07.00	V228	V1.5.072	5.07.00	5.07.00
Support of  Web-Editor version 5.07.00 (without usage of trending, alarming and Unicode characters)	-	V228	V1.5.072	5.07.00	5.07.00
Trending	5.03.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.03.00	5.03.00
Autom. page change	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
Password 4 levels	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
TableControl	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
ComboBox	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
Unicode with cyrillic Windows	5.13.00	1.08.02	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
HTML support (e.g. frameset for navigation)	-	No	No
Support for SD-card (backup and restore; clone and restore from clone)	-	1.08.01	-	-	-

The version 1.5.10.082c of the Micro Browser for CE panels is distributed with the following images for the CE panels:

• For PCD7D.5xxxTMxxx (CELERON): version $1.0.3.0
• For PCD7D.5xxxTXxxx (XScale):     version $2.0.27.0

Supported features by PCD firmware
The table below shows the first version of the PCD systems supporting various features.

Web-Editor functions	PCD3.Mxx0	PCD2.M480	PCD2.M170	PCD2.M150	PCD1.M135	PCS1.Cxxx	PCD3.Mxx7
Trending	020	039	020	0D0	0A2	0B3	1.440
Alarming (ACK possibility by user program)	039	039	0E3	0E3	0E3	0C0	1.511
New filter "Active or NAK" in Macro DefOnline Alarming	1.06.38	1.08.21	0E3	0E3	0E3	0E3	1.08.04
Nbr. of data points > 1500 (max. 1500 data points/page)	020	1.08.21	020	0D0	0A2	0B3	1.440
Nbr. of pages > 32	020	1.08.21	020	0D0	0A2	0B3	1.440

Remark
The versions mentioned above are the first versions that support the according feature. As the versions all are backward compatible, it is recommended using the last version rather than downgrading a system to the version indicated above.
The first name of this FAQ was "Which functionality is supported in which Web Editor, Micro Browser and firmware version?"

 

When connecting over a network (VPN), the default timeout can be to small. It is possible to change this timeout by adding an configuration file.

 

Symptom
The WebServer is accessible over the local network and works well. But when connecting over e.g. a VPN or over the internet, the pages are not displayed (or only some times). The error message Applet IMasterSaia not inited can appear.

Reason
This can happen due to the timeout of the WebServer. By default the http connection is reset by the PCD after a timeout of 1 second with firmware older than 1.14.xx (with firmware 1.14.xx and later, the default timeout is 3 seconds). In some cases the "old" timeout of 1 second is not long enough while 3 seconds shoud be ok in all cases.

Solution

• Firmware 1.14.23 with PG5 2.0.150 (SP1) with or later
  Starting with firmware 1.14.23 and PG5 2.0.150 (Service Pack 1) it is possible to configure the S-Web Server directly with the Device Configurator and this configuration can be downloaded over S-Bus (download configuration in the Device Configurator):
  
  Before this is possible, please configure the firmware version to "From 1.14.00 or more recent" in the properties of the PCD type (see screenshot below).
  A change of the configuration is active right after the download of this configuration (given no http connection is already open; the parameters of open connections are not changed on the fly).
• Firmware older than 1.14.xx
  The timeout can be configured in the Web server configuration file on the PCD. The name of the file must be: "WEBSocketConfig.txt" and it has to be placed either in the M2_Flash/Config folder or it has to be downloaded with the WebBuilder.
  The file has to be present at boot time, this means that you have to restart (power off /on) the PCD for that the configuration is interpreted. An example file is attached to this FAQ. When placing this file the timeout will be 10 seconds.

Remarks

• As soon as PG5 2.0.150 or later is used and the configuration of the device is set to "Firmware 1.14.xx or newer", the configuration will be downloaded via the Device Configurator. This configuration has a higher priority than the WebSocketConfig.txt.
• In case you already have configure the PCD in the old way (with the WebSocketconfig.txt) and you would like to keep it that way even after a firmware upgrade, please select "Before the version 1.14.00" and download this configuration; this will cause the Device Configurator to delete its configuration files even if the firmware used on the PCD is newer than 1.14.00:
  

Since the Micorbrowser does not support every function of the Internet Explorer it can be necessary to open the Internet Explorer for some specific operations.

 

Problem
The Microbrowser cannot handle everything that the Internet Explorer does.

Reason
Since the Microbrowser was reduced to a minimal browser to make it faster, it is not possible to add all option that other browsers have.

Solution
It is possible to call another tool which is installed on the panel per example the Internet Explorer. This can be done with the container variable MB_StartProzess. As value the tool to open and the URL has to be entered (iexplore www.ininet.ch; with image 2.0.xx it is isample ininet.ch ).

 

New F-Boxes per example for the trending / alarming where installed in PG5. After the installation the F-Boxes are still not available in Fupla.

 

Problem
New F-Boxes where installed. The installation seemed to be successful, otherwise the F-Boxes are still not available.

Reason
Check if the F-Boxes are really installed (p. ex. C:\Program Files\SAIA-Burgess\PG5 1_4\Libs\Usr). If they are present there, check in the Software-Settings of your CPU under Directory if "Use Library Override Directoryes" is activated.

Solution
If the files are not present, copy / install them again
If the "Use Library Override Directoryes" is activated, deactivate it or copy the files to the corresponding path.

 

After installing or upgrading the Sun Java Virtual Machine Version 6 (resp. 1.6) the SBC Java applet for S-Web applications (IMasterSaia*.jar) does not update PPO values anymore. To fix this refreshing problem, either use a recent firmwae or disable the file caching for java files.

 

Symptom
At the beginning of April 2007, Sun Microsystems started to distribute it's updated Java Virtual Machine, now called Java Platform Standard Edition 6 which is in fact version 1.6.0. After this version is installed, the Java applet used with S-Web application does not work properly anymore. While setting PPO values via Buttons or Edit Boxes still work, the actual PPO values are not updated/refreshed.

Reason
This problem is caused by the fact that version 6 / 1.6 activates the file caching for java files, which was normally deactivated in former Java versions. To solve the PPO update problem within the SBC applet, the file caching for java files has to be disabled again!

Solution
There are two possible solution in this case:

• Recommended solution
  Use a recent firmware version, later than 1.10.16 for PCD3 or PCD2.M5xxx. This firmware version contains the new Web Server 2 which supports the caching mechanism used by the Java Virtual Machine.  
• In case it is not possible updating the firmware of the PCD, disable the caching of files in the Java Virtual Machine. Therefore go to the control panel and open the settings for "Java". At the bottom of the "General" tab, click on the Button "Settings..." within the "Temporary Internet file" group. Now the dialog "Settings for temporary files" should be openend (see screenshot below).
  
  Disable the the file caching by untick the checkbox and clear the file cache by clicking the "Delete files..." button. Close all opened dialogs with "OK" and restart your Web-Browser. Now, the SBC applet and your S-Web application should work properly again (but the whole applet will be reloaded every time when opening the web page).
  

With Internet Explorer 6 it was possible to access the PCD3 FTP server. IE7 does not support this anymore

 

Problem
The FTP server can only be accesed with per example: "ftp://root@172.16.1.65". Otherwise when browsing to another folder the connection is always borken because the root@ get lost. It is necessary to add the root@ for each folder changing.

Reason
Microsoft does not support the FTP functionality with the IE7.

Solution
Use another FTP client: Fillzilla (Freeware), Total commander or go back to

 

When the input Clear of the FBox 10 Alarm get high this FBox and the Alarm SWeb Init FBox show no values and it doesn't work properly! It also can happen that the PG5 closes and PCD get in a strange state.

 

Install the corrected Alarming library 103001in attachment!

 

After a few houres or days the PCD3 goes in HALT with a BUS ERROR.

 

Problem
The PCD3 goes in HALT with a BUS ERROR after a few hours or days. After a power off / on it works again for a while

Reason
This can happen if many accesses to the WebServer are executet and a firmware <030 or <$2A is in use.

Solution
Update the firmware to 030 or $2A

 

The page is properly displayed but the values are not refreshed anymore.

 

Problem
After a few hours the Internet Browser is not refreshing the page anymore. The only solution is to restart the Browser.

 

Reason
If the debug option is activated in Web Editor, Project/Project configuration this will fill up the Java consol and after a few houres it is not possible to handle it anymore and the Browser will freeze. This debug option is not activated by default. It can be helpful at the beginning of a project but in runtime it should be switched off again.

Solution
Switch off the debug option.

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The page is properly displayed but instead of the values from the PCD a syntax error is indicated.

 

Problem
Everything works fine, only the values from the PCD are not displayed. It appears a syntax error instead.

 

Reason
This can happen if the file .tcr is not loaded on the CPU. The two files .tcr and .itc should not be copied to the flash memory card or in the C:\Webpages folder. They have to be implemented in a WebServer Project (.wsp) and downloaded to the CPU. If they are on the flash card or in the Webpages folder this can cause the problem desibed above.

Solution
Create a WebServer Project (.wsp) -file in your PG5 project, if it is not already existing. Add the .tcr and .itq file and "Generate" the file. Make a rebuild all and download the project to the CPU. Note that the WebServer Project (.wsp) has to be linked in the project, while the WebEditor Project (.prj) don't has to be linked.

 

Negativ values are not displayed correctly in a Web Application

 

Problem
Negativ values are displayed as 1.-44 instead of -1.44. The format is not correct

 

Reason
There are two different problems. On problem was in the microbrowser version for CE-panels and the otherone was in the Java-Applet of the Web-Editor (IMaster.jar).

Solution
The problem is fixed for the Microbrowser CE panels in the version V1.5.076b7 which is now installed on the delivered panels.
The problem with the IMaster.jar is fixed in the WebEditor version 5_10.

If you need a new Microbrowser or WebEditor Version contact the support team support@saia-pcd.com

 

 

Web Editor 5.07 Project with Microbrowser V1.5.07.074

URL Jump doesen't work!

 

    Web projects built with WebEditor 5.07 need the Microbrowser Version V 1.5.076b7.

    Contact PCD Support

 

The maximal lenght of all file names in a Webproject is 18 characters (without extention). Special characters and spacees are not supported.

 

Problem
It is possible to define file names with more than 18 characters and special characters or spaces. Unfortunately these cases are not catched by the WebEditor. However, the Web Editor project will not work properly if a file (*.teq, *.gif etc.) has a name that is more than 18 characters. It might be that the file is not downloaded at all and is therefore missing in your project (the 18 characters do not include dot and extention).
If a *.teq file has a file name longer than 18 characters it is possible that the PPO values are not read from the PCD ("no message" is shown instead). It is also possible that only a part of the PPO values is shown.

 

Examples

• Thisismygif.gif (11 charakters=ok)

• Thisteqistoolong132.teq (19 charakters=too long)

• New Gif.gif (Space is used= not allowed!)

• Hällö.teq (Special character used=not allowed!)

 

All files in the Web project should be defined according to this rules including the Webproject itself.

 

This is related to a firmware problem in the PCD3 FW 018. Update to the next official version.

 

 

 

On a PCD Web Panel CE it's possible to display the Web application with two different tools, either the Internet Explorer or the Micro Browser.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's possible to display the MicroBrowser page on the PCD Web Panel CE in full screen mode.

That mean that now scroll bar on the right side and on the bottom of the display is visible

 

If you want to display the content of the MicroBrowser page in full screen mode then you have to open the file:

uBrowser.xml

which is located on the flash card of the PCD7.D5xx terminal on the folder:

"Storage Card/Micro-Browser/"

with a text editor and you have to modify the entry: <kiosk>0</kiosk>

<kiosk>0</kiosk> = full screen mode is not actiavated
<kiosk>1</kiosk> = full screen mode is actiaved, this is the first version of full screen mode. Not all functions are supported
<kiosk>2</kiosk> = full screen mode is actiaved, this is the new corrected version of full screen mode.
<kiosk>3</kiosk> = full screen mode is actiaved, this is a special full screen mode. It is not possible to get to the windows desktop of the panel without a keyboard connected.

If you are creating a new project we recommend to use the kiosk 2 mode. Otherwise if you have created a projekt with kiosk 1 and you are happy with it, there is no need to change.

 

 

Excel ofers a powerfull function to store the content of Web-Pages (tables) which where stored in the PCD in to Excel sheets

 

To store a Web-Page content like the example below in a Excel sheet you have to perform the following steps:

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Open Excel. Select menu point "Data, Import External Data, New Web-Query".

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On the address field, browse to your Web-Page which is stored on the PCD.
Select the page and the table which you want to store in to Excel.

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Define the Excel cell where you want to store the table

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This error appears if the itq file is empty.

 

Problem
The following message appears when generating a Webbuilder Project: 
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Reason
The itq file is empty

Solution
Generate the Webbuilder Project without itq file or open the corresponding Web-Editor project, click on the icon ID=, o.k / yes. Save the file. Now the Webbuilder Project will no more show this error message.

 

If you try to connect to the the WEB Server of a PCD2.M170, PCD2.M150 (pilot FW) or a PCS1 and no WEB Server project has been downloaded, the following error is displayed: "Error 4 -Invalid page indentifier in the PCD answer".

 

 

On the "older" system it is necessary to download a Web Server project (even if it is empty) into the PCD in order to be able to access to the default SBC WEB Pages!

On the Saia PCD® COSinus systems (PCD3, PCD2.M5 and PCD2.M480) this problem doesn't occur!

 

The web page is properly displayed but instead of the variable value the text "No component selected" appears.

 

Symptom
The webpage is properly displayed but instead of the variable value the text "No component selected" appears. Probably some modifications have been done on the web pages in the Web Editor and it has been compiled and downloaded. The graphical modification are updated but the the variable value don't apear!

Reason
The message "No component selected" indicates a wrong or missing tag definition for the value to be displayed. One common reason for this message is that only a part of a Web Editor project has been updated.

Solution:

Make a "Save all" in the Web Editor before compiling the PG5 project and download the project! Don't forget updating also the files which are stored on a Flash module (WEBPAGES folder) and/or in the folder "WebPages" from WebConnect.

 

All PCD systems developed since the year 2000 contain a Web Server for diagnostic purpose and allow to download customized pages. This is very useful for maintenance purpose and for simple visualizations.

Web Technology is an endless topic, so it is important to start at the right end.

 

S-Web Editor
In general we recommend using the PG5 Add-On tool "S-Web Editor" for the creation of web projects for the visualisation of the PCD medias (Registers, Flags etc.). The S-Web Editor is distributed on the PG5 Controls Suite CD and can also be downloaded from the support page (www.sbc-support.ch). As you can see below, the S-Web Editor is a WYSIWYG Editor:


CGI interface
In case the Web Server shall be accessed from e.g. a Visual Basic application, the PCD resources can also be read and written via CGI calls. In this case, the SBC.Net Suite offers specific libraries which provide the interface from your application to the Web Server of the PCD. The SBC.Net Suite is based on the Microsoft .Net Framework. Please contact your local Saia-Burgess Controls AG Sales office for more information.

Writing your own html code
Of course it is also possible to write your own *.htm/*.hmtl pages containing tags for displaying PCD resources, but the engineering effort is significantly higher if this way is chosen. Please refer to the Web Server manual for more information (the support given by Saia Burgess and its representatives will be limited to the content of this manual).

 

During Trend display on an MB Panel the following error message appears. "Out of memory heap 3"

Reason:

The MB Panel memory is divived in different partition called "heaps". The size of each available heap has a default value which can be increased when needed

 

 

Solution:

Acces to the MB Panel parameters by pressing a few seconds on the touch screen

Go to "System/Special/memory" here you see how much memory is used in each heap

By pressing "Setting" (at the page bottom) you access to the available Heap size where each one can be modified. Increase the Heap 3 to maximum 4096 (if needed).

Remark:

Don't increased the size of the other Heap is not necessary. The maximum MB Panel memory size can't be exceeded!

On a 64 Bit OS system, after an update for Java to version 1.7.0_65 (July 2014), the Applet doesn't start anymore and the Browser shows just a blank page.

This trouble is caused because of incompatibility between 32 and 64 Bit components (OS, Browser, Java version).

 

Possible behavior:
- On a 64 Bit OS system with 32 Bit Browser, the applet doesn't start anymore in the Browser.
- The applet works and starts without any problem on 32 Bit Systems and 32 Bit Browser and 32 Bit Java.
- The applet works and starts without any problem on 64 Bit Systems and 64 Bit Browser and 64 Bit Java.

The used Browser (32/64 Bit) will define which Java version (32/64 Bit) will be installed.
Today, 24.07.2014, IE exists in a version for 32 and 64 Bit. Official Chrome and Firefox is only available as 32 Bit version. The 64 Bit versions are in beta-phase.

The below table shows the version compatibilies.

Windows OS	Browser	Java version 1.7.0_65	Function
32 Bit	32 Bit	32 Bit	OK
64 Bit	32 Bit	32 Bit	not OK
64 Bit	64 Bit	64 Bit	OK

We did tests with Firefox, Internet Explorer and Chrome

Possible solutions
- Use for example the Internet Explorer 64 Bit, which is normally already installed on Windows OS with the 64 Bit Java runtime. You'll find the IE 64 Bit version under C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
- You can downgrade the Java runtime to the version 1.7.0_55 (available in the attachment below).

How to know which version of IE and Java is used
For IE:
On the IE go to the Help --> About Internet Explorer, window and look for "64-bit Edition"
If it is absent you are running the 32 bit version of IE.
32-Bit IE:

64-Bit IE

For Java:
How to know if the 32 or 64 bit version of the Java is used?
On the dos command window do type:
java -version
On the 64-bit version there will be the text
....64-Bit Server VM
Where on the 32-bit version there is nothing written about the 32-bit version
32-Bit Java

64-bit Java

 

On a pop up window the message ‚Missing Application-Name manifest attribute for: x.x.x.x/IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar is shown.

 

If the web pages where created with older versions of the web-editor of PG5 2.0 and PG5 2.1 or the web editor of PG5 1.4 then it’s possible that this error does occur.

The new java applet which does solve the problem is integrated in PG5 2.1.300 or later.

 

Symptom:

The web page is not displayed and the follwoing window is shown

Reason:
On older versions of the files IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar and IMasterXX7_5_15_02.jar (version < 5.15.0231) there where some missing information’s which the new version of java now does check.

The problem is fixed since the version 5.15.0231 of the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar/ IMasterXX7_5_15_02.jar file.
PG5 2.1.300 or later does include the corrected java applet.

Solutions for applications where the java applet IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar or IMasterXX7_5_15_02.jar with version < 5.15.0231 is used:

Solution:
There are 3 differnt solutions:
Solution 1: Define on Java a exception for the PCD's which does contain the old *.jar file
Solution 2: Replace the old *.jar file on the PCD with a new one
Solution 3: Set the security level on java to the level 'medium'

Solution 1: Define on Java a exception for the PCD's which does contain the old *.jar file
Quick solution to be able to display the web pages again without the need to update the java applet on the PCD:
To do this you have to open Java from the control panel.


Browse to the securty tab and there click to the button 'Edit Site List':


On the next window do enter for each PCD which does contain the old *.jar file the IP address in the format
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and click to the button 'add'.


After this there will be a warning window like this:


The IP addresses are schown then in the security tab in the section 'exception site list'



Solution 2: Replace the old *.jar file on the PCD with a new one
Do download the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar version 5.15.0231 or later stored on our homepage, section PG5 2.0/S-Web editor and do replace the existing .jar files in your project directory and/or to the PCD with the new one.
If the java applet is used in the PG5 web builder, then do copy the new java applet in the web and html folder of your PG5 project and do compile again the web builder and the PG5 project and do download the project to the PCD.
Do copy also the two files in to the S-Web editor 5.15.02 directory so that this jar files are also used for new projects.
This java applet version 5.15.0231 or later does contain the new manifest.

Solution 3: Set the security level on java to the level 'medium'
Quick solution to be able to display the web pages again without the need to update the java applet on the PCD:
To do this you have to open Java from the control panel and on the security tab and there
put the security level on the java control panel to the level 'medium'.

Please note, that this solution is only an intermediate solution which helps to display again the web-page.
To avoid any security issues it’s necessary to set back the security level to 'high' as soon as possible and to replace the java applet as described above.

How to detect the version of the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar file?
Display the web-editor web page on the browser and do open the java console.
There the version of the java applet is shown as following:

 

When I load the content of my remote PLCs Webserver I get a pop-up window with a security information and following warning: "The application's digital signature has expired".

 

Symptom
When I load the content of my remote PLCs Webserver I get a pop-up window with a security information and following warning: "The application's digital signature has expired". I can now choose between "Run" or "Cancel".



Reason
The certificate (digital signature) of SBC IMasterX_XX_XX file expired on January 3rd 2013. That's why the internet browser is prompting you with this warning, if you're using a version 5_15_02 or older of the IMaster-file.

Solution for applications where the java applet IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar or IMasterXX7_5_15_02.jar is used:
Do download the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar version 5.15.0229 (with date from the 16.09.2013) stored on our homepage, section PG5 2.0/S-Web editor and do replace the existing .jar files in your project directory and/or to the PCD with the new one.
Do copy also the two files in to the S-Web editor 5.15.02 directory so that this jar files are also used for new projects.
This java applet version 5.15.0229 or later does contain the new certificate.

How to detect the version of the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar file?
Display the web-editor web page on the browser and do open the java console.
There the version of the java applet is shown as following:



For PG5 2.1. 
Since the version $2.1.053 of PG5 2.1, the two jar files which does fix the problem are installed together with the S-Web Editor 5 and the S-Web Editor 8

Possible solution for applictions where any version of the IMasterSaia/IMasterXX7 applet is used. 
Please check the box "Always trust content of this publisher" and click "Run". There are absolutely no security risks when running SBC IMaster-file.

 

On the alarm list of the alarm web-page not existing alarms are displayed as active without text (only "-").

The displayed ghost alarms aren't used at all in the project or they aren't anymore used as the project was modified!

 

Reason:
Depending of the number of alarms which are defined on the alarm init FBox, PG5 does reserve an array of alarm flags (for example 300).
It’s possible that on the PG5 program not all alarms of this array are used.
There might be also gaps between used alarms, according to the parameters of the Alarm Header Fboxes used!

This behavior of ghost alarms on the alarm web-pages occurs, if the unused flags are set to 1.
This could happen, if a project was modified and for example on the old project an alarm was set to 1 and this alarm doesn’t exist anymore on the modified project.

Solution:
Find out the start address and the array size of the alarm flag array on the Fupla symbol editor.
Reset all the alarms flags with the degugger, using the command Write Flag 4758 Count 300 0:
In this case the Flag 4748 is the base address of 300 alarm flags.
For your case you have to use your base address and your array size.

or
add a program code in the XOB 16 (cold start) to reset all the alarms at startup:

                XOB    16
                SEI      K  0                                                   ; load the index register 0
LOOP1:    RESX   F   A.Alarm.ListeAlarmeGen.Flags      ;Reset Alarmflags + index
                INI      K   300                                               ; Increment the index register 
                JR        H  LOOP1                                           ; Jump to loop1 as long as index < 300
                EXOB
  Use this code only once, because otherwise all alarms are cleared after each startup of the PCD.

 

On the MB Panel (PCD7.D4xx ), there is no entry on the alarm list and the message above is displayed.

If the web project is displayed on the Internet Explorer then the alarms are shown correctly on the alarm list and there is no error message!

 

Reason:

The special characters like "é,é,ö,à, etc.." aren't supported as reference for the alarm macro on the MB panel (PCD7.D4xx).
But it's possible to use special characters for the alarm messages.
Please refer to the FAQ #101427 about this.

Solution:
Modify the name in the Alarm FBox (Alarm SWeb) in that way, that no special characters are used.
Also on the csv file which does contains the alarm messages do not use special characters on the left side of the semicolon sign!
For DDC-Suite applications: Do re-generate the DDC_Alarming.csv file with the help of the ddc Add-on tool after changing the name of the FBox which does contains alarms.

 

A HDlog macro has been added in a project but it isn't possible to enter the variables because the option to Add a "SBC HDlog files" in the Project Configuration window (Menu: Project / Project Configuration.. ) is missing!!

 

Symptom
The "Project Configuration window" appears as following (without the HDLog files section):


Possible reason
The licence for Web Editor Advanced is missing!

Possible solution
Update your PG5 licence with Web Editor Advanced!

 

When opening the start page of a web editor project the list of files being loaded are displayed in the browser. If this is not desired one hide or adapt this behaviour using a new HTML Tag since PG5 2.0.220 (in fact the S-Web Editor 5.15.0221 is required)!

 

Procedure
The start-html file is to be modified in order to influence this behaviour. This can be done in the following way:

• Open the start.htm file (or however your html file from the S-WebEditor is called) from the folder /WEB inside the PG5 Project (not from the folder HTML) using a text editor
• Below the "End Tag2" line at the end of the file, add the line with the InitPhaseMessageLevel:
  The result will be:
  
• Build in WebEditor and then PG5 and finally download the modified htm(l) page of the project
  (new line will not be overwritten on Build of the Web Editor because it is below the "!- End Tag2"

Remarks
The folllowing values can be used to select the behaviour while loading the pages: 

• 0 ==> No init phase message displayed

• 1 ==> ALL init phase loading filexx messages are displayed

• 2 ==> Only message text "Loading..." is displayed at init phase

• 3 ==> loads an image and displays that image during init phase (the loading image may also slowdown if a bigger image is used)
  If the Option 3 is selected, the image file name can be defined by the following parameter:
  

Please note that the minimal version of the IMasterSaia.jar is version 5.15.02 delivered with PG5 2.0.220 (it will not work if IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar from PG5 2.0.210 is loaded). The size of the file to be used is 371.9 kByte.

 

If you run on your PCD7.D61xxTL010 eXP panel with 512 MB main memory the internet explorer and use the applet 5.15.02 (or later) with standard *.html settings of the WebEditor, you might face the following error message "Windows - Out of Virtual Memory – Your system is running low on virtual memory" at the moment the applet is started.

 

Reason
With the default settings of the S-Web Editor 5.15.02 the applet tries to allocate too much memory.

Workaround
The task is to modify the size of the allocated memory used by the applet. This setting's defined in the *.html file of the WebEditor project. We have to add this supplementary initialization at a place that the WebEditor doesn’t overwrite during the Build all process. Add the line



just below the line

example of html-code


Alternative solution
use WebEditor 5.15.03 or WebEditor 8 once available.

 

In case the PG5 Control Suite is not installed the S-Web Editor has to be licensed by copying the file "user.key" into a specific folder. This FAQ contains a procedure for licensing the S-Web Editor without PG5.

 

Please follow the procedure below in order to install an license your copy of the S-Web Editor.

• Install the S-Web Editor
  The installer can be downloaded from the support site or is available on the DVD of the PG5 Controls Suite in the folder
  \PG5 Stand Alone\S-Web Editor\
• Create the following folder manually and copy your "USER.key" to this folder:
  For Windows XP:
  c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Saia-Burgess\PG5_20\LocalDir\USER.key
  For Windows 7:
  c:\Users\Public\Saia-Burgess\PG5_20\LocalDir\USER.key
• Please execute the executable "RegKey52.exe" from the installation directory of the S-Web Editor: 
  c:\Program Files\SAIA-Burgess\PG5_20\Web Editor 5_xx_xx\RegKey52.exe

After having executed these steps the WebEditor is licensed according your User.key file.

 

When displaying a certain teq view, the MicroBrowser (MB Panel, CE Panel, iPhone & iPad App) stops working and displays the error message "file not found xxxx.teq" where 'xxxx.teq' is the name of the teq view from which the jump was executed. This problem occurs due to an invalid 'PLC-ID' inside a Macro used on the concerned teq view when compiled with a Web Editor 5.15.0200.

 

Symptom
All macros edited or created with a version between and including 5.14.30 and 5.15.0200 contain an invalid PLC-ID, this leads to either an error in the Message Box “Invalid PLC-ID” or to the fact that the MicroBrowser freezes when jumping to another page. When the MicroBrowser blocks, the message “file not found xxxx.teq” is indicated, where “xxxx.teq” is the name of the teq view from which the teq view jump was initiated.

Solution
Build the Web Editor project with a Web Editor 5.15.0221 or more recent, this eliminates the error.
The Web Editor 5.15.0221 is part of the PG5 2.0.220.

Remark
If it is not possible updating PG5 or the S-Web Editor, the option "Force Teq Files Saving as…" in the menu "Project Configurations" --> "Build Options" can be disabled in order to avoid the problem.


Other possible cause
The text PPO used for the password for ex. level1Pw, level2Pw, etc have no Format defined in the PPO list (Web-Editor 5) or der WVAR (Web-Editor 8) file.
They have to be defined with the Format "STRING"!

 

The "Alarming 2" feature comes along with some new functionalities as for example alarms in groups and priorities. But, this groups and priorities are not correctly displayed using the Alarming v2.6.166 FBox Library.

 

Problem
Groups and priorities of the alarms in "Alarming 2" feature are all set to "0".
There's a bug in the actual FBox Library "Alarming v2.6.166".
If you don't enable the Eventlist functionality in the "Alarm2 SWeb" FBox, your "Alarming 2" alarmlist will behave like a traditional "Alarming 1" alarmlist. This means, it'll not care about the group- and priority-definitions. A "0" is indicated for groups and priorities instead of the real numbers.

Solution
Until a new version of the FBox Library will correct this issue and if you want to use the "Alarming 2" feature without implementing an Eventlist, you can apply following workaround:
- enable the Eventlist in the "Alarm2 SWeb" FBox
- minimize the generation of creating Event-files my choosing to create a file only each month
- but anyway, you'll have to specify a Flash file system for the logs
- clear to "0" all the alarms in the Eventlist-columns of your Alarming Configuration file.

 

There's a new S-Web Alarming functionality available in Fupla and the S-Web Editor 5.15.02. It's called "Alarming 2". This new feature adds functionality but is more complex to use. Therefore it should only be used in case this new functionality is explicitely required.

 

The "Alarming 2" feature is available for conditional use for customers that absolutely need the new features listed below:

• Event handling
• Short and long alarm texts
• Alarm texts on 2 lines
• Alarm texts in short and detailled form
• Alarm help texts
• Alarms in groups and priorities
• "Alarming 2" isn't yet an automatic progress. There are some steps to be done by manually by the user.

You'll find a "User Quick-Guide", a Demo-Project and template files to startup your first project using these features. These files are stored in the folder "Alarming 2 documentation" at the place where you installed the WebEditor version 5.15.02.

i.e.: C:\Program Files\Saia-Burgess\PG5_20\Web Editor 5_15_02 

The minimum required versions are:

• PG5 2.0.210 and later (PG5 1.4 is not supported) 
• PCD firmware: 1.16.45
• FBox Library: 2.6.164
• S-WebEditor version: 5.15.02
• CE and XP MicroBrowser: min. 1.5.15.118
• VGA and SVGA MicroBrowser Panel: 1.18.28

Please also respect the PCD hardware dependency; a recent PCD3 firmware version that is required (see firmware download page). The "Alarming 2" feature is only supported on Saia PCD® COSinus PLCs (PCD1.M2, PCD2.M5, PCD3 but not on PCD2.M480).

 

In some cases it is necessary to re-load a Web Project project on a PCD7.D4xxx MB Panel (e.g. if the project stored on the PCD has been modified). This can of course be done by powering off and on the PCD7.D4xxx, or it can be realized by writing in to a specific container " uBT_Reboot "

Introduction
In some cases it is necessary to re-load a Web Project project on an MB Panel (e.g. if the project stored on the PCD has been modified). This can of course be done by powering off and on the PCD7.D4xx, but in this case someone need to be present to manually do so. Alternatively there is the possibility to initiate a reboot (which causes a reload of the proced) by writing the container "uBT_Reboot" to value "1".

Example
Attached to this FAQ you can find an example for PG5 2.0.210 which contains a small Fupla file together with a small S-Web Editor project.

• In this project it is possible to restart the MB Panel directly (with a button to write the container uBT_Reboot to "1")
• Alternatively it is possible to write a PPO (Timer) with a button to the value of 10 seconds. The binary state of this timer is copied in the Fupla file to a flag, and this Flag is copied to the container uBT_Reboot with the macro "Write source to destination (on repaint)" which is located on the same page.
• If in the Fupla program the same timer (Web.Roboot_Timer) is written to a value of around 10 seconds, the reboot will take place witout someone touching the MB Panel (given the macro "Write source to destination (on repaint)" is executed on the panel).

Firmware and hardware requirements
It is possible to use the container uBT_Reboot since the hardware version C of the MB-Panel.
In order to use the container uBT_Reboot for rebooting the MB Panel the following minimal firmware is required:

MB Panel version	Minimal firmware	Remarks
PCD7.D4xxD (SVGA)	1.18.12	-
PCD7.D4xxV (VGA)	1.18.28	first internal firmware version: 1.18.12
PCD7.D4xx_ (QVGA)	not supported

Screenshot for example project

Restriction:

1.- Since FW version 1.22.xx due to the internet security the remote access to the panel is on OFF mode.
2.- The only panels where it is possible to re-activate such remote access are : PCD7.D412DTPx and PCD7.D4xxxT5F. All the others (a part from someOEMs) do not allow any access at all.
3.- The remote access can be reactivated by removing the parameter in the setup menu (MANUALLY) under System/Special/FTP Server/Remove default user as "not checked" and for sure the parameter on/off "active".
4.- On the pWeb-Panel like PCD7.D4xxxT5F or PCD7.D443WT5R, the uBT_Reboot instruction does write all PCD medias like register, flag, DB, timer and counter to 0.
To avoid the writing to 0 of all PCD medias to 0, use the attached Webeditor-8 template in your Webeditor-8 project.

The template ‘Reload new project’ can be used on all Web-Panels with FW 1.22.xx or newer:

To use the template just import the template Reload new project.xtml (attached to this FAQ) in the Webeditor8 libraries and place the template on the web-page on which the reboot should be performed.

Description of the webeditor8 template ‘Reload new project’
The template reload a new downloaded web application on the HMI device.
Use the property dialog of the template to configure.
Parameter ‘Reload project if 1’: If the selected Variable (INT/PCD) is set to “1” the function is executed.
Parameter ‘Jump to URL’: Name of the html file used for the application if known, if not you can let it empty. In case it is empty, the default configured start page on the device will get loaded.
After successfully execution, the variable defined at Reload project will be set to “0”
The template does replace uBT_Reboot instruction but will not clear the medias of the pWeb Panels.

 

You try to access a File on the Web-Server of the PCD with the HTTP protocol e.g. with an Internet Browser. The Web-Server responds with the Error message File not found. (HTTP 404 Not found)

 

Problem
The Web-Server can't find the file although it is visible with FTP access.

Reason
This happens because the file system has just been formatted with the Memory management FBox before.


Solution
After formatting the file system with the Memory Management FBox it is necessary to switch off / on the PCD (remove 24V). For PCD3.R600 flash memory modules there is also another solution the SD-card can be removed and reinserted. After this operation the file can again be accessed with HTTP protocol.

Note
This inconvenience will remain on FW versions <= 1.16.xx but it will be corrected for future firmware versions. It won't be necessary anymore to switch off / on the PCD.

 

The "Action Mode" "Broadcasted Action" never was supported by SBCs MicroBrowser Panels (PCD7.D4xx) and could be used only with the applet-based Browsers. In order to eliminate this incompatibility (different behaviour on different browsers) it was decided to limit the "ActionMode" to "Consumed Action" only.

 

What is the broadcast mode?
A S-Web Editor button is in some purposes too limited for executing mutiple action possibilities. To enhance this lack, programmers placed multiple buttons on top of each other. So, clicking the topmost button also executed the actions attached to all the buttons underneath. This behaviour was possible while using in the WebEditor the "Action Mode" "Broadcasted Action".

Why is it no longer available in the S-Web Editor 5.15.02?
This behaviour worked fine in all Applet-based Browsers. But was newer supported in any SBC MicroBrowser Webpanels. Therefore, to eliminate this incompatibility, SBC fixed the "Action Mode" in WebEditor version 5.15.02 and newer to "Consumed Action".

What to do?
If you want to continue programming using the "Action Mode" "Broadcast Mode" you have 1 possibility:

• continue to program your project with WebEditor version 5.14.30 in mode "Broadcasted Action"

Otherwise, if you want to profit of the newest WebEditor features of version 5.15.02 and newer, you'll be constrained to use the "Action Mode" "Consumed Action". So,

• modify your project structure to be compatible to "Consumed Action" mode or
• replace your multi-action-buttons of your actual project with a special macro that emulates the multi action feature of your several buttons. Please contact the SBC support team to receive this macro.
  
  

When an “EventP_Logout_onTimeout_5_13_40.esm” macro is placed (i.e.) in the background Teq view, it jumps also to the defined Teq view, after the inactivity time ran out, even if you haven't been logged in.

 

Problem
When an “EventP_Logout_onTimeout_5_13_40.esm” macro is placed in the background Teq view, it jumps also to the defined Teq view, after the inactivity time ran out, even if you haven’t been logged in.
Also the container “userLevel” is set to “0” but it was anyway.

Solution
You have to disable the automatic log-out feature on timeout if you're not really loged-in. So, right mouse-click on the logout macro and then choose “Cross Ref…”, a dialog box opens. In the second tab (General) it is possible to disable the group on condition. Click on “Disable Group” and “On Condition”, afterwards it is possible to configure the condition. As Type, choose “Container” and name it “userLevel” it is the same that is used in the login macro. Then chosse “<” and value “1”, like it is shown in the picture below.

 

When configuring in the WebEditor a macro, using the macro user interface, the error message "ERROR while generating Macro's Temp folder" appears. Why this?

 

Symptom:
You want to configure in the WebEditor a macro, that uses the new macro user interface, and following error message appears: "ERROR while generating Macro's Temp folder".

Possible reason:
The reason is always, that the folder with the name "MacroLibTempFiles" isn't present in your local WebEditor installation folder on your programming computer. This folder is needed to handle the macro dialogue user interface and isn't always installed by PG5. Especially not with the actual PG5 2.0.200 SP2.

Solution:
Create the empty folder "MacroLibTempFiles" manually, directly in the root of your present WebEditor installation, like shown in the below picture.

 

In the new WebEditor 5.15.02, included with the PG5 2.0 Service Pack 2, there is a bug when using the new alarming macros, resulting in "Unresolved external symbol" on next build.

 

Symptom
In the new WebEditor 5.15.02, included with the PG5 2.0.200 there is a bug when using the Alarming macros. After having inserted the macro "MacroAlarmingDefOnline_5_14_05" or the "MacroAlarmingDefOnline_5_15_02" two PPOs are generated automatically: maxPPO2 and minPPO2.
On the next build these symbols which should not be added to the PPO list result in following error message: "Unresolved external symbol"



Reason
Due to an error in the macros the minimal and maximal values of the macro are added as PPO.

Solution
Please install PG5 2.0.210.0 or a later version of PG5 2.0.

Workaround (if the update of PG5 is not possible)
A workaround to work with the new Web Editor until a new version is available is the following:

1. Change the PPO Listname format to "DEC", then you can remove the Min and Max values of this PPO.
2. Click Ok, and open again the PPO window, now these two PPOs have disappeared.
3. Change again the format of the Listname PPO to String , then you can compile the project  without having this error.

With Service Pack 2 of PG5 2.0 (PG5 2.0.200) the S-WebEditor version 5.15.02 is installed. This Editor comes along with new alarming features (Alarming 2) like alarm lists with priorities and Event handling.

 

Firmware dependencies
All these new features are supported in browsers when using the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar file. The actual official firmware version 1.12.17 for Micro Browser displays does not yet support these new Alarming features.
Therefore a firmware version 1.18.xx will be needed; this version is actually in preparation for begin of 2012.

Remark
This FAQ will be updated as soon as the according firmware is available.

 

With the Web Editor version 5.15.02 (installed together with PG5 2.0 SP2; PG5 2.0.200) the button "Select" is missing when using the dialog "Replace" to select a group name for the macro Find/Replace feature.

 

Symptom
The Macro Find/Replace itself does work but the button to select a group name is missing:


Reason
This is a bug of the S-Web Editor 5.15.02 which is distributed with PG5 2.0.200. It is corrected with PG5 2.0.210.

Solution
Please install PG5 2.0.210 which contains a correctio of the S-Web Editor.
In case it is not possible to install the new version, the following workaround can be applied:
Before clicking the button, select a PPO from the list below (it is important it is a PPO and not e.g. an HTML tag):

 

Wenn openning the Tag "Project-TeqConfiguration" and "Project-Build Advanced" some options are missing (see screen shut below).

 

Reasons:
Those options aren't accessible because the licence used is a S-Web Editor basic!


The missing options aren't needed in the Web Editor Basic package

 

In case you would like to use the icons from the HEAVAC S-Web Demo or from the DDC Suite template projects you can download them from the support site.

 

How do these icons look like?
Below you can find a screenshot from the HEAVAC S-Web Demo:


Where from can I get these symbols?
The symbols which are used for the HEAVAC S-Web Demo and the DDC Suite template projects can be downloaded from the support page, see link below.
In the archive you'll find several versions of each symbol (various sizes, and always one *.gif and one *.jpg).

Can I use these icons for my projects or are they copyright protected?
You can use these icons; they have been designed by Saia-Burgess Controls AG and are intended to be used together with the S-Web Editor or Visi.Plus.

Are the symols according to DIN or SIA?
In case the symbols are not identical, SBC tries to provide both versions; the one according to SIA and the one according to DIN.

What can I do in case I'm missing a symbol in this library?
In case you are missing a symbol in the library, please send an eMail to support@saia-pcd.com; in most cases we'll add the icon you desire.

 

Spaces in texts get displayed as "+" when the option "Encode Special Chars" in the Web Editor is disabled or if a 'old' version of the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar file is used.

 

Symptom
After entering text in a text field of a webproject the spaces between words get displayed as plus signs ("+").

"this is a text" results in
"this+is+a+text" being displayed

Solution
Please enable the option "Encode Special Chars" in the project configuration of the Web Editor. This option must always be enabled when the web project will be running on a NT system. (And it mustn't be enabled when running off a old/non-NT-system!)



The 'old' IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar applet does generate the same kind of error.
Do use at least the IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar file with date 05.02.2013, downloadable from the support homepage, section software PG5 Suite 2.0.220.


Remark
Do not enable the "Encode special characters" on the following systems: PCS1, PCD2.M150, PCD2.M170, PCD1.M135.

 

Wenn building an S-Web Editor project this message may appear in case at least one macro used in this project is more recent than the onces from the S-Web Editor 5.13!

 

Symptom
The following message is shown on each build of the S-Web Editor project:


Reason
This message indicates that during the build of the project the "Teq format" is converted to an old version (the original files remain, but the files copied to the "html" folder are modified to the old format). This is only necessary in case the project shall be displayed with an older Micro Browser runtime.
In detail the option "Force Teq Files Saving as 5_13 Format" is only required in case the project shall be displayed on one of the following hardware/firmware combination:

• PCD7.D4xx (QVGA) MB Panel with firmware older than 1.10.45
• PCD7.D4xxV (VGA) MB Panel with firmware older than 1.01.04
• WinCE panel (PCD7.D5xxx) with a uBrowser version older than 1.5.13.100
• Win Mobile uBrowser version older than 1.5.14.106
  

In case one of these versions is used (and it is not possible to update the firmware or uBrowser version), please select the following checkbox in the S-Web Editor menu "Project" --> "Project configuration...":


In case the firmware or uBrowser versions are up-to date, just unselect the above checkbox in order to get rid of the message indicated at the beginning of the FAQ.

 

After an update of the project from PG5 1.4 to PG5 2.0 (if in the S-Web Editor project a Heavac template "Set-point ramp" or "Setp-point slide" is used) the symbol A.HVC.FBox_Name.SetPt can be missing.

 

Symtpom
After an update of the project from PG5 1.4 to PG5 2.0 (if in the S-Web Editor project a Heavac template "Set-point ramp" or "Setp-point slide" is used) it is possible that the error "Unresolved external symbol: A.HVC.FBox.SetPt" is displayed and the build fails.

Unresolved Externals: A.HVC.FBox.SetPt in modules: 'WEB.obj'

Reason
The HVC FBoxes "Set-point ramp" and "Set-point slide" from PG5 2.0 did not contain all the A-Symbols (they have been removed because the displayed value has been wrong).

Solution
Please update your PG5 2.0 Heavac library to version 2.6.151 (this library is not by default in PG5 2.0 SP1) or later.

 

In case special characters are used in an S-Web project to be displayed on an MB Panel (e.g. in the alarm list) a corresponding font files which allows to displayed the specific characters is to be loaded.

 

 

In the application where the alarming functionality is used there are 2 ways to defined the texts of the alarm (here below):

1. In the *.csv file which is edited with the S-WebEditor and to use with Alarm SWeb Init Fbox or Alarm PCD Init FBox
   --> Here you can write in the CSV file special chars as cyrillic, japanese and other ... (contact your local SAIA Burgess sales office for specific font files)
2. Or in the PCD directly (through the Symbol Editors or a *.src file) to use only with the Alarm PCD Init FBox
   --> In this way only ASCII characters are supported

A S-Web Editor project can be displayed in two resolutions (using the autoscaling feature). In case the original size is downscaled it is possible that some gif files are not displayed properly (or at all) on VGA MB panels. QVGA MB Panels do not support the autoscaling feature.

 

Problem
On a PC with a usual web browser the page is displayed correctly. On the VGA MB panel (PCD7.D4xxV) some gifs are missing. The project was created and afterwards the scaling functionality was used for downscaling to the VGA resolution 640 x 480.

Reason
If a gif has a bigger size than the maximal resolution of the VGA panel (640 x 480) the panel cannot display the gif picture. The VGA MB panel is not able to scale it down if the original gif is bigger than 640 x 480 (per example 800 x 50).

Solution
Store the *.gif in a size not bigger than 640 x 480. To avoid such problems it is recommended to use the scaling feature only as up-scaling for S-Web Editor projects/pages.

Additional information: How to find the reason for such a problem?
If a gif is not properly displayed and you don't know the reason you can connect to the panel over FTP. In the folder UBT_FS a file LOG.txt is available. On the last lines of this file you can find the reason for the problem (with firmware version 1.12.11 or later).
Example
"nGif, not valid GIF: Too large image size: name_of_the_gif.gif"

 

To implement the HDLog feature you'll have to respect some minimal mandatory versions of PG5 library and PCD firmware

 

Symptom
On build of the PG5 1.4 project (implementing the HDLog feature) an error message in the following style is shown:
Fatal Error 12: C:\Programme\SAIA-Burgess\PG5 1_4\Libs\App\HDLOG.lib: Line 40: Can't open $INCLUDE file: FileSysMac.lib

Reason
The FBox libraries are most likely not compatible. In order to be able to build your project, please update the FileSystem FBox library of your PG5 1.4 for that they are compatible with the HDLog FBoxes.
Minimal FBox library versions (which supports the HDLog to File feature):

• HDLog FBox library 2.1.030 or newer
• FileSystem library $2.5.307 (PG5 1.4) 2.6.100 (PG5 2.0) or newer
• PCD Firmware 1.10.16 (but we recommend 1.10.28 or newer in order to profit from the most recent features in the file system)

In a Web Editor project with HDLog File macro the following error messages appear during the connection to the PCD Webserver:

File not found: Filename_D0111018.csv. Actually 30 files are not found (past month)

 

 

Symptom
The Applet tries to load the csv-file of the actual day from the Web-Server of the PCD by means of HTTP protocol. The Web-Server can't find the requested file and replies with "File not found". The applet counts 30 days back and asks for these files. None of the files can be found. The webserver can't find the file of the actual day although it is visible with FTP access.

Reason
This happens in case the file system has just been formatted with the Memory management FBox before. In this case the Web Server does not know that it shall re-search the folder on the formatted flash.

Solution
After formatting the file system with the Memory Management FBox it is necessary to switch off / on the PCD (remove 24 V). For PCD3.R600 flash memory modules there is also another solution the SD-card can be removed and reinserted. After this operation the files can be seen again by the Web-Server and the error message from the Applet will disappear.

Note
There could be other reasons for the same behavior of the Applet. (Error messages File not found). But in these cases the file would not be visible over FTP. It may be that the command for the WriteFile operation was not yet given or there were other errors with the File writing operation (e.g. Flash device not present)

This inconvenience will remain on FW versions <= 1.16.xx but it will be corrected for future firmware versions. It won't be necessary anymore to switch off / on the PCD.

 

When compiling a project in PG5 the error message: "more than 383 elements in DB" appears. How can this problem be solved? And where does it comes from?

 

Problem
It is not possible to compile the project. The error message "more than 383 elements in DB" appears on build of the project in PG5.

Reason
DBs in the extension memory do have more than 383 elements (these DBs do have address 4000 and above). All other DBs (address 0 to 3999) only can have up to 383 elements. The alarming and trending FBoxes need DBs with more than 383 elements (RAM DBs located in the extension memory).

Solution
This error message can appear if there is no extension memory configured or if there is no extension memory available (on a PCD2.M150 per example).
For the PCD3 and PCD2.M5 the solution is to configure the "Hardware Settings" with default values and download the hardware configuration with memory allocation. Afterwards open the "Software Settings" and set the values to default.

Remark
On "non-Saia PCD® COSinus" CPUs like the PCD2.M150 you will need extension memory otherwise it would not be possible using the alarming FBoxes since those require  DBs with more than 383 elements.

 

While it is well known how to generate scalable HTML-files with the S-Web Editor and how to use them with the different MicroBrowser resolutions. But it is not well known that it is also possible to use different HTML start-files for different "non MicroBrowsers".

 

Replace your per default generated start HTML-file by a HTML-file containing this small java-script code in the body-part.




if (screen.width==640||screen.height==480) //if 640x480 VGA
window.location.replace("Start.htm")

else if (screen.width==1024||screen.height==768) //if 1024x768 XVGA
window.location.replace("XVGAStart.html")

else //if all else
window.location.replace("Start.htm")




This code is browsing to the respective HTML-file corresponding to the resolution of your Web-Browser.

 

When showing an online trend in a PCD7.D4xx MB Panel (both VGA and QVGA versions) the time stamp displayed is wrong. Instead of the correct time, a date in 1970 is indicated.

 

Symptom
When showing an online trend in a PCD7.D4xx MB Panel (both VGA and QVGA versions) the time stamp displayed is wrong. Instead of the correct time, a date in 1970 is indicated.

Reason
The reason for this incorrect time is that the PCD7.D4xx do not feature an internal clock.

Solution
With the MB Panel firmware 1.18.28 and later this problem is solved. The clock of the PLC is then transmitted to the web panel.

 

When using the "HDLog to file" FBoxes the caching of the Java Virtual Machine (JVM) is to be disabled.

 

Symptom
When using the "HDLog to file" feature, on the first loading the logged trend, the trends are displayed correctly. But on a reload of the trends to display more recent trend curves, no refresh is done. The browser (running the Java Virtual Machine) only reads the cached memory (instead of re-reading the files on the PCD).

Reason
Theoretically the WebServer 2 (implemented on PCD3 and PCD2.M5 systems with FW 1.10.16 or later) supports caching by the JVM. But the new feature "HDLog to file" feature does not yet support chaching. If this feature is used, please disactivate the caching in JVM.

Solution
Please desactivate the caching feature of the JVM as described in FAQ 100708 when using the "HDLog to file" FBoxes and macros.

 

When the two files KEYPAD.TEQ and ALPHAPAD.TEQ have been copied from the uBrowser Panel into the Web Editor project the extensions appear in capital letter (.TEQ) , in order to be correctly interpreted (in the java applet) it has to be in lower case letters (.teq)!

 

Solution
In Web Editor rename the KEYPAD.TEQ and ALPHAPAD.TEQ in KEYPAD.teq or ALPHAPAD.teq (Right-click on the file / Rename..).

 

In general the small red button with the "Warning" written on it indicates an error. When clicking the button, the message box should appear and indicate a detailed desctiption of the error.

 

 

Symptom
The small button with the "Warning" written on it appears in runtime of a web project, but no error message is shown when clicking it.
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Reason
This behavior can be observed if the file "MsgBox.teq" is not present in the Web Project, or if the file can not be found.

Solution
In order to have the message box shown, include the file "MsgBox.teq" (either in the WebBuilder project, or on a flash file system in the folder /WEBPAGES/).

 

You know how to create log-files on the PCDs flash file system with the HDLog FBoxes. But how can you handle the saving and deleting of the historic files in most efficient way without generating undeleted and unused files?

 

To work most efficient with the HDLog feature in combination with flash file system it's good to know some background ideas from the developpers side. The best would be to describe this idea directly in an example:

• you define to save daily your logs in a file on the flash file system
• take care of the size of this daily generated file. You're able to send via e-mail attachments of 1 MB size
• you have to define the size of the historic buffer of daily files. You define this size with the parameter 'delete file older than ...' of the HDLog FBox
  if you put for example '30' into this parameter you'll have a total history buffer of 30 files representing the last 30 days on your flash file system
• in this case you have to trigger on your own and manually the 'DelFile' entry of the FBox every day. The file older than 30 days will then be deleted from the file system. Otherwise you risk to have undeleted and unused files on your flash card in the future so you'll always have a historic buffer of 30 days. When you log the 31st day, then the 1st day will be erased
• The "DelFile" commands are to be triggered in a sequential way (the output "DelRdy" of the first FBox shall trigger the "DelFile" input of the next and so on:
  
  

Since the S-Web Editor version 5.13.00 many new functionalities have added. These new features also need to be supported by the Web Panel and the some of them by the PCD firmware, too. This FAQ contains a matrix which indicates the required firmware versions for the new features of the S-Web Editor 5.14.27 released in August 2009.

 

Introduction
The various features of pages created with the Web Editor do require functionalities of the PCD firmware as well as of the panels/PC systems used. Depending on the panel or PC, these functionality needs to be implemented in:

• The PCD firmware itself. The PCD firmware can be downloaded from the according product section on the support site.
• The firmware of an MB Panels if used. The MB Panel firmware can be downloaded from the product section PCD7.D4xx from the support site.
• The image (if a CE- or eXP panel is used). The according image can be downloaded from the product section PCD7.D5xxxx (CE) or PCD7.D6xxx (eXP) from the support site.
• In the IMasterSaiaxxx.jar (for the usage of a web browser running on a PC). The IMasterSaiaxxx.jar is distributed together with the Web Editor and will be copied into the PG5 project by the Web Editor. The Web Editor itself can be downloaded from the Application overview page "S-Web" on the support site.

Supported features by panels and the Web Editor
The table below shows the first version of the Web Editor supporting various features. Additionally, the required version of the panel operating system is shown, too.

New Web-Editor 5.14.27 functions	MB Panels (FW version)		Win CE Panel (uBrowser)	Win Mobile (uBrowser)	PC/Laptop eXP Panel (IMaster.jar)
	QVGA	VGA
Autoscaling up-scaling		1.12.01	1.5.13.100	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
Moving (X/Y) painter objects	1.10.45	1.01.04	1.5.13.100	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
Polygon rotate feature	1.10.45	1.01.04	1.5.13.100	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
"Tacho" macro	1.10.45	1.01.04	1.5.13.100	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
HD Log trending to PCD File System *)		1.12.01	1.5.14.105	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
New Login/Jump macros	1.10.45	1.01.04	1.5.13.100	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
New CopySourceToDestination macros		1.12.01	1.5.14.105	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
New macro dialogs (new TEQ file format "h")	1.10.45	1.01.04	1.5.13.100	1.5.14.106	5.14.27
Online trend with correct time		1.18.28		1.5.14.106

*) Please note that the following FBox libaries for PG5 1.4.300 are required for the HDLog trending to file system: HDLog 2.1.030 and FileSys $2.5.307. Both versions are included in the package available from the support site. The FBoxes delivered with PG5 2.0.110 do not need to be updated.

Supported features by PCD firmware
The table below shows the first version of the PCD systems supporting various features.

Web-Editor functions	PCD3 Mxxx0	PCD2 M5xx0	PCD2 M480	PCD1.M135 PCD2.M1x0 PCS1	PCD3 Mxxx7	PCD2 M5xx7	PCD2.M487 PCD2.M1x7
Web Server 2	1.10.16	1.10.16			1.10.17	1.10.17
Autoscaling Moving (X/Y) painters Polygon rotate
HD Log trending to file system	1.10.51	1.10.51
New Login/Jump macro New TEQ file format "h"
Online trend on MB Panels with correct time	1.10.16	1.10.16			1.10.17	1.10.17

Remarks

• When working with PG5 2.0.110 or later the S-Web Editor together with all required FBoxes mentioned in this FAQ are already installed. Examples for PG5 2.0 are available under:
  "General information" --> "Getting Started" --> "Program Examples" --> "PG5 2.0" --> "Web and HMI"
• When working with PG5 1.4.300 the S-Web Editor together with an example, the required FBoxes and firmware versions for PCD2.M5xx0 and PCD3.Mxxx0 can be downloaded from the support site from section
  Software --> PG5 --> PG5 1.4 --> PG5 1.4 Suite (scroll down until "Web Editor 5.14.27 package")
• The versions mentioned above are the first versions that support the according feature. As the versions all are backward compatible, it is recommended using the last version rather than downgrading a system to the version indicated above.
• The first name of this FAQ was "Which functionality is supported in which Web Editor, Micro Browser and firmware version?"

 

Since May 2010 a new S-Web Editor version is available on the support site. The main differences of this version are listed in this FAQ.

 

S-Web Editor package 5.14.30 (May 2010)
The following features are new compared to the S-Web Editor 5.14.27. Please note that not all features are available for all PCD systems and/or Web Panels. For more detailled information, please refer to FAQ 101273

New features

• The applet IMasterSaia5_14_30 is now certified
• Possibility to specify the target frame in the URLJumpOnMouseDown macro
• New format "String-i" for display of texts containing formatted data (e.g. $Rxxxx)
• New display formats for time and date within the alarming macro (e.g. dd.mm.yyyy hh:mm:ss)
  Please note that this new format selection is not yet supported on the MB Panels. This FAQ will be updated once a firmware is available.
• Speed improvement when opening Macro dialogs of in large projects
• In case the font is not defined for a painters, the font will automatically be inserted (Arial) on save
• Warnings ("found HTML Tags which are no longer used" and "Warning while updating project's MacroLibTemp for:" on project build can now permanently be disabled by pressing the button "Cancel"
• Improved workflow when working for modifying Macros

Corrections

• When inserting an Alarming macro, the PPO "Alarmlist" will automatically be defined as String in the PPO Initialisation list
• Error when opening the Macro Dialog on Windows7 and Windows Vista is corrected
• Password macro "PasswordDialog_UserLevel_5_13_40" created a dialog timeout when selecting PCD texts
• FTP Download from the S-Web Editor displays correct error messages

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S-Web Editor package 5.14.27 (August 2009)

The following features are new compared to the S-Web Editor 5.13.00. Please note that not all features are available for all PCD systems and/or Web Panels. For more detailled information, please refer to FAQ 101273

New features

• Historical data logging to the flash file system is supported (for PCD3.Mxxx0 and PCD2.M5xx0)
• New, intuitive dialog for configuring macros
• Auto-scaling is availble for using the same project for differenct screen resolutions
• Painter objects can be moved based on PPO values
• Polygons can be rotated
• New Tachometer macro
• Extended Login- URL- and TEQ-jump macros

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Remark

The S-Web Editor together with the required FBoxes can be downloaded from the support site from section
Software --> PG5 --> PG5 1.4 --> PG5 1.4 Suite (scroll down until "Web Editor 5.14.30 package")

 

In case a build of a PG5 project containing the "HDLog File" FBoxes fails with the compiler error "Symbol not defined: __stc_id_00000_..." there are two possible reasons:

1. A wrong version of "HDLog File" FBoxes causes a compiler error when used with a trending macro in the Webeditor.

2. Some internal symbols for the FBoxes were not correctly generated

 

Symptom
On build of PG5 project the following compiler error is shown and the build is aborted:

Error 42: Kokeilu.wsc: Line 1658: Symbol not defined: __stc_id_00003_var_00

1 errors, 0 warnings

Solution
There are two possible solutions 

1. old version of FBox library
   Please download and install the newest webeditor package or "HDLog File" FBoxes (version 2.1.030 ml.zip) found on the support site.
2. missing internal symbols
   - In Fupla editor right click on the FBox "HDLog File"
   - choose "Add Predefined Symbols" then "Ok"
   - then make a "rebuild all" in PG5 project manager
   - if the message error still appears, do the following steps (here below)
   - in the web editor delete the macro "RemoteOffSaved..." you've already inserted
   - insert these macros again from scratch
   - add desired curves to the macros
   - "Build All" in web editor
   - Do a "rebuild all" in PG5 project manager
   

 

 

Symptom
When building the WebEditor project after generating the HTML-file, the build fails with following error message:
'a renamed file was not found'
As result it isn't possible to build the WebEditor project at all. This behavior has been observed on PCs with installed virus scanner named "Trend Micro Internet Security Pro" (version 17.1.1250).

Reason
Apparently the virus scanner prevents the Web Editor to complete the build of the WebEditor project by denying access to the *.htm/*.html file of the project.

Solution
The actually only solution to successfully build of the WebEditor project in this case is to disactivate this virus scanner during engineering with WebEditor. 

 

The browser or microbrowser does cash the loaded offline trend lines into an own memory. This leads to the behavior that on the browser more data points than stored on the PCD memory can be displayed.

 

With the FBox HDLog (integer or binary) it is possible to define the size of the trend which is logged. This size does define the reserved memory for one offline trend curve/line within the memory of the PCD. Every data point of the trend does occupy 8 Byte of memory space.

Example
If a size of 1 kByte is defined for a trend line, the PCD does store 128 trend values for this line.
If the buffer is filled up, then any new value will overwrite the oldest one (if the option "Ringbuffer" is selected).

Every time an offline trend is loaded from the PCD into the web browser or microbrowser then the loaded trends curves are stored in the memory of the web browser or microbrowser.
If after a certain time the same trend is loaded again in to the web browser or microbrowser then the new values are added to the existing memory of the web browser or microbrowser.

This leads to the situation that on the web browser or microbrowser more information is stored than availbale in the memory of the PCD.

Remark
To delete the trends stored in the memory of the web browser or microbrowser, just click to the button "Clear logs".

 

No it isn't possible to display a register content or a sub text (with the instruction $Rxxxx or $Lxxxx) in the alarmlist of the S-Web editor.

 

 

 

The reason why this isn't possible is the fact that the database of the PCD which does store the alarm events does not contain the alarm text (which may change if the content of the Register $Rxxxx does change) but only a number (pointer) of the alarm.

If on the web browser an alarmlist is shown, then the java applet does load the alarm database from the PCD and afterwards the java applet does insert the alarm text from the csv file or from the PCD texts.

 

If on the FBox "LogToFile" the text which contains the directory name and the file name does have a configuration option "fixed length" then it's not possible to store information on to the file system.

For both of the texts only the option "Default" has to be set.

 

 

The following text definition option has to be used:


Remark
An example for using these FBoxes can be found in the "Getting Started" area on the support site.

 

In order to prevent that someone do copy the web pages which are stored on the file system (memory module) of the PCD, it’s possible to convert the content of the web-pages in a DB of the PCD with the use of the web-builder tool.

 

For S-Web editor project’s we do recommend to convert the *.teq files in the web-builder.

 

 

Yes, since the S-Web editor 5.14.10 (currently in pilot phase) it's possible to transfer container variable information from one web application to another web application.

 

Older versions of the S-Web editor (version < 5.14.10, currently still in pilot phase) doesn't support the possibility to save container variable information's (like for example the actual used password level) in the web browser and to re-use this information's in an other web application of different PCD's.
Every time that the *.html/htm file was loaded in the browser/microbrowser all information's stored on the container variables where cleared and set to the default values.

For installations where web applications of several PCD's are displayed on the same browser/microbrowser it could be useful that some information's stored on the container variables of one web application "A" could be used on a web application "B" of a different PCD.

Since the S-Web editor version 5.14.10 it's possible to write/read container variable information's from one web application to/from the clipboard of the browser/microbrowser. The information's are stored in to special "session containers".
There exists 20 session containers named:
"_NOINITSESSCO_0" to "_NOINITSESSCO_19"

This session containers are relative to the session of the browser/microbrowser and are only cleared if the browser/microbrowser is closed.
Any new launched browser will generate a new session and will have here own session containers.
The option "File New Tab" or "File New Window" of the browser will not make a new session and therefore the "old" session containers will be used on those windows.

Example for the use of the session containers

The user is connected with the browser/microbrowser to the web application on the PCD "A" and do enter the password. If he now do connect to the PCD "B" and do load the web application of the PCD "B" then the password level should be used directly on the web application of the PCD "B" whiteout that the user needs to reenter the password.

To read/write the container variables to/from the session containers it's possible to use all functions of the S-Web editor which does allows reading/writing of container variables like:

• Edit Box
• Text field
• "Actions set variable" of the button
• Makro "copy container to container on lost focus/ on gain focus/ on repaint".

The functionality was tested with

• Saia PCD® MB Display QVGA (PCD7.D4xxx) with FW 1.08.05
• Saia PCD® MB Display VGA (PCD7.D4xxV) with FW 1.01.01
• Saia PCD® MB Display CE (PCD7.D5xx) with MB version 1.5.12.095
• IE 6, IE 7
• Firefox 3.0.6

In case symbols can not be selected from the S-Web Editor but a message window with the content "CPU '.' has no global symbols" is displayed the path to the S-Web Editor (which is automatically installed with PG5 2.0.110 or later) might be wrong.

 

 

 

Symptom
It is not possible to select the global symbols as PPOs from a PG5 2.0 project in the S-Web Editor. A message window shows up instead of a table with the symbols to be selected:

Internal Error: PCDBrowseForSymbolDlg2()

Reason
This phenomenon can be observed in case the path the the Add-on tool S-Web Editor is not correctly set (and points to the S-Web Editor from PG5 1.4 instead of the one from PG5 2.0).

Solution
Please make sure that the path to the S-Web Editor is correctly configured. Therefore please

• Close the S-Web Editor
• Open PG5 2.0 and select "Add-on Tools..." from the menu "Tools" of the PG5 2.0 Project Manager
• Make sure that path to the S-Web Editor is correct. In case the path does not point to the S-Web Editor which is installed in the directory
  c:\Program Files\SAIA-Burgess\PG5_20\Web Editor 5_14_30\Web-Editor.exe
  please correct the path as shown in the screenshot below:
  
  

If a S-Bus communication is used between the PCD3 or PCD2.M5xx0 and the MB VGA panel (PCD7.D457Vxxx and PCD7.D410Vxxx) then it may not be possible to write to the PCD variables (depending of the firmware installed on the MB VGA panel).

 

Symptom
If the connection between the PCD3 or a PCD2.M5xx0 (with firmware 1.09.38 or newer) and the MB VGA panel is realized with S-Bus (Serial S-Bus over RS232/RS485 or Ether S-Bus) and if the MB VGA panel (PCD7.D457Vxxx and PCD7.D410Vxxx) has installed the firmware (FW) 1.01.00 (or older) then it isn't possible writing a PCD variable from the MB VGA panel (edit box or button).

Reason
With this firmware combination writing is not possible with the edit box or with the button of the S-Web-Editor.

Solution
To solve the problem it's necessary to use a FW later than 1.01.00 for the MB VGA panel or a firmware older than 1.09.38 for the PCD3 or PCD2.M5xx0.
This FAQ will be updated as soon as a new firmware for the VGA panels is available.

Remark
If the connection is realized with "http direct" or if the PCD3 or PCD2.M5xx0 firmware is older than version 1.09.38 there is no problem to write to the PCD variables. Systems other than the PCD3 or PCD2.M5xx0 are not concerned.

 

If the user likes to store a web page then sometime the error message shown below is shown in the S-Web-Editor and it’s not possible to store the web-page.

 

 

Error message displayed on the S-Web-Editor

Bug fix to allow storing the page:

• Open the S-Web-Editor
• Open the concerned *.teq file
• Save the file with a different name by the use of the menu "File, Save as"
• Include the new filename in the Web-Editor project with the menu "Project, Add to project, File" and select the new filename.
• The new file is now shown in the left window in the "Project Files Tree Window" of the S-Web-Editor.
• Delete the old file by selecting the file on the "Project Files Tree Window" of the S-Web-Editor and clicking the right mouse key. Select "Remove/Delete from project".
• Save the project
• Close the S-Web-Editor

Re-open the project and change the new file name to the old file by selecting the file "Project Files Tree Window" of the S-Web-Editor and clicking the right mouse key. Select "Rename file".

 

Any user defined container variable of the S-Web Editor has a size of 255 Bytes.

 

Means that any user defined container variable uses 255 Bytes of the memory and has the capacity to contain a 255 Byte value.

 

 

 

If on a web-page with trending or alarming after clicking the button "Save Logs to file" the Web-Application is no more reacting then it’s possible the Java security settings are the reason of this trouble.

 

Symptom
The Web application running on a PC (e.g. in the Internet Explorer) does no longer work after the button "Save Logs to file" has been clicked.

Reason
In this case it is very likely that the security settings of the browser does not allow the Java virtual machine (VM) to access the file system.

Solution
Please refer to the chapter "Java Security Settings (For Microsoft VM)" in the attached extract of the manual of the S-Web Editor. Alternatively, you can also refer to the on line help of the S-Web Editor (refer to chapter "Java Security Settings (vor Microsoft VM)")

 

With these container variables you can control the behaviour of the Micro-Browser, get panel specific information, launch and control applications which run in parallel to the Micro-Browser, control hardware features (e.g. audio, LCD back light) and write local data to the panel.

 

Please take note that especially the hardware related settings depend on the specific hardware platform and are not allways available; the XSCALE CPU (PCD7.D5xxxTXxxx) doesn't support audio.

 

See below mentioned a list of container variables for the Windows CE Micro-Browser:

"MB_VERSION"	shows version of the xml configuration file
"MB_APP_VERSION"	shows version of the MicroBrowser
"MB_OS_VERSION"	shows version of the OS
"MB_PLATFORM"	shows the platform name, is one of the following "uBT", "uBCE", "uBXP", ...
"MB_SCREEN_WIDTH"	shows the width of the screen
"MB_SCREEN_HEIGHT"	shows the height of the screen
"MB_IpAddress"	shows the IP address of the panel
"MB_Subnet"	shows the subnet mask of the panel
"MB_Gateway"	shows the gateway address of the panel
"MB_Volume"	this container is used to get and set the volume in percent
"AUTOINCRCO"	this container is incremented on every period
"BLINKCO"	is AUTOINCRCO modulo 2
"MB_InactivityCounter"	this container counts up every second. It is reset to 0 on any mouse or key actions of the user
"MB_StartProcess"	this container is used to write the name of the application to start
"MB_ExeToTop"	this container is used to write the name of the program to bring on the top
"MB_BringWindowToTop"	this container is used to write the name of the window, or a part of it, to bring the application on the top. writing "_self" will bring the MicroBrowser on top
"MB_WakeUp"	write 1 to wake up the computer and to stop the screen saver
"MB_Backlight"	write 0 or 1 to turn off/on the display or the LCD backlight
"MSGBOX_NR"	show the number of messages appended in the message box
"MessageBoxCO"	show the text in message box
"MB_UpdateAfterPpoWrite"	write "0" or "1" to improve the reaction time after writing on any PPO
"MB_UpdateAfterCoWrite"	write "0" or "1" to improve the reaction time after writing on any CO
"@MODAL_FOREGROUND"	write "0" or "1" to disable or enable the modal foreground teq
"@LANGUAGE"	to write the name of the new CSV file to load
"@MB_FKEY_EVENT"	show the last function key proceed
"@MB_FULL_REDRAW"	write "0" or "1" to disable or enable the full redraw mode
"_KEYPAD"	used by the keypad teq to edit the value
"_KEYPAD_DEST_NAME"	used by the keypad teq to save the name of the destination to write
"_KEYPAD_DEST_TYPE"	used by the keypad teq to save the type of the destination to write
"_KEYPAD_SHIFT"	used by the keypad teq as caps-lock
"_KEYPAD_OPEN"	used by the keypad teq to open a new keypad
"_KEYPADCLOSE"	used by the keypad teq to close the keypad, or to switch between alpha-pad and numeric-pad
"_KEYEVENT"	by the keypad teq to append new characters used
"_KEYPAD_TF_FOCUS"	used by the keypad teq to select the editable text field after closing the keypad
"MB_PERCO_0"	Persistent container  0 stored in "uBrowsCo.xml"
"MB_PERCO_1"	Persistent container  1 stored in "uBrowsCo.xml"
"MB_PERCO_2"	Persistent container  2 stored in "uBrowsCo.xml"
...
"MB_PERCO_19"	Persistent container 19 stored in "uBrowsCo.xml"

 

Sometimes it's quite useful to have a link to all the PPO variables one uses in the WebEditor. There's a PPO list of the WebEditor used global variables. And one can also generate a Cross-Reference-File that lists all the *.teq-files and the PPO variables used in these *.teq.

 

In the WebEditor you can generate under 'Project' -> 'Generate Cross Reference file' this Cross Reference list. It's saved in the 'Web' folder of your working CPU and is called *CrossRef.txt. You can open this file with a Text-Editor and search for your variables and find out where they're used in your WebEditor project.

 

It is possible to close the MicroBrowser Software with a special button action programmed in the WebEditor.

 

In case you run the MicroBrowser Software in Kiosk Mode 2 or higher and you want to permit a special user (special logged in) to access the Windows CE Desktop without using a keyboard to close the MicroBrowser (uBroswser) Software.
 
How to close the uBrowser with a button?
Copy the value "killme" into the special Container "MB_StartProcess". This will close the actual running MicroBrowser Software (see screenshot below). This button can easily be hidden and protected when not logged in.

 

During the use of the Internet Explorer on a Panel eXP, it can happen that the values of the PCD are not refreshed during several minutes.

 

Symptom
The values of PCD medias (PPOs) shown on a eXP Web Panel (PCD7.D6xxx) are freezed from time to time for a couple of minutes. If during this time a page is changed, no values are shown at all. This phenomenon can be observed when using the Web Editor 5.13.00. This can happen after several hours of service.

Reason
This freeze of the values is caused by a problem in the Java Applet IMasterSaia5_13_00.jar distributed together with the Web Editor 5.13.00.

Solution
To solve this problem, please load the new Applet 5.13.00 (attached to this FAQ) into your web project.

 

It is possible that gaps in trend from logs are visible in the browser if the "load info & data" of the macro "Trend" is executed after a longer time interval than the data memory size available in the PCD allows to store!

 

Symptom
It is possible that "holes" in "HDLog to DB" trends are visible in the browser if the "load info & data" of the macro "Trend" is executed after a longer time interval than the data memory size available in the PCD allows to store!


Reason
The trend data's loaded from the PCD are stored temporarily on the memory of the Web browser.
The gaps can occur if the displayed time range on the browser is bigger than the data logging ringbuffer on the PCD.

Example
The log date size is 100 KByte data with a frequency of 1 log per seconds.
As 1 KB is 1024 bytes, there are 102400 bytes (100 x 1024 bytes) available for the trend.
1 log entry including time stamp (date/hour/value) takes 8 bytes.
As result, the available DBs on the PCD are filled up after 12800 seconds (102400 bytes / 8 bytes) which corresponds to 3h and 33 minutes. 

If the "load info & data" is executed at at 8.00 PM and again at 12.00 PM, a gap of 26.66 minutes will be displayed between the two ranges of logs.
At 8.00 PM the data's from 4.26.66 PM to 8.00 PM are loaded from the PCD, stored in the temporary memory of the browser and displayed on the browser.
At 12.00 PM, the data's from 8.26.66 PM to 12.00 PM are loaded from the PCD, added to the data's loaded before at 8.00 PM and stored in the temporary memory of the browser.
All data's (from 08.00 PM and 12.00 PM) are then displayed on the browser.
No recorded data is available between 8 and 8.26.66 PM because the data recorded in this period has been overwritten by the ringbuffer on the PCD.

Note
If the browser is restarted or if a "clear Log" is exectuted then the gap disappaers because the temporary memory of the browser is cleared and trend shows only the last data's (3h33.33) uploaded from the PCD!

 

Yes, if you use version 2.0.31 of the Web-Builder or later you can access to variables like Ressource_name_of_PG5[2].

 

 

With the old Web-Builder it was not possible to use symbolic PG5 resource names if on the Web-Builder the container offset where used.

On the old Web-Builder you have to use the following syntax:

PDP,,R100+@COFF_index@

 

Since the version 2.0.31 of the Web-Builder it is possible to use the symbolic name of the PG5 like

Ressource_name_of_PG5+@COFF_index@

 

 

 

The old version of the Web-Builder supports only registers with addresses < than 10000 (4 digit values).

Register addresses > than 9999 are supported since the version 2.0.31 of the Web-Builder.

 

 

 

Yes it is possible to use a kind of life sign on the XP, CE and MB Web-Panel (created with the S-Web-Editor) and to read this life sign on the PCD.

This allows to know if the connection between the PCD and Web-Panel is ok and if the Web-Application on the Web-Panel is running.

 

 

To insert the life sign you have to use the container variable @BLINKCO on the S-Web-Editor.
During runtime this container toggles each refresh period between 1 and 0 on the XP, CE or MB Web-Panel.
To transmit the container @BLINKCO to the PCD, you have to copy the container to a PCD variable and you have to check on the PCD application programm, that the PCD variable does toggling cyclically.

To copy the container @BLINKCO to a PCD variable use the macro “EventP_wrCo2ppo_onRepaint_.tlb” of the S-Web-Editor.
You can place the macro on a background page and use the same background page on all your Web-Pages.

To avoid that the life sing is not toggling during the time that the Web-Pages “MsgBox.teq”, “ALPHAPAD.TEQ” or “KEYPAD.TEQ” are shown on the screen, you have to insert the macro “EventP_wrCo2ppo_onRepaint_.tlb” also on this pages.
Please note that you have to insert the macro directly on this three pages.
It’s not allowed to use a background or foreground page on this three pages.

Remark:
If several Web-Panels does display the same Web-Application of the same PCD then on the PCD the life sing will be overwritten from all Web-Panels and it’s not possible to detect if one Web-Panel is no more working.

 

The instruction CODEBASE allows to define where the java applet file "IMasterSaia_x.jar" shall be searched and loaded from.

This allows storing the java applet file "IMasterSaia_x.jar" on a Web-Server somewhere on the network (Intranet or Internet) and not on the PCD.

 

Update 20.10.2014
Sun has changed the security behavior of Java since the Java version 1.7.0_51-b13.
Since the codbase instruction is also in this security 'area' it's necessary to allow the access to the external web-sever which hosts the IMasterSaia_x.jar file on the java settings as described in the FAQ#101878.

The instruction
The instruction CODEBASE has to be written on the html file generated from the S-WebEditor.
After a "Build All" on the S-Web-Editor you have to edit manually the *.htm or *.html file from the "html" folder of your PG5
project and you have to modify the following entry:
APPLET ARCHIVE="IMasterSaia5_14_30.jar" CODE="IMasterSaia5_14_30.class" ALIGN="BOTTOM" WIDTH="640" HEIGHT="480"

to:
APPLET ARCHIVE="IMasterSaia5_14_30.jar" CODEBASE="sbc-support.com/faq/general/applets" CODE="IMasterSaia5_14_30.class" ALIGN="BOTTOM" WIDTH="640" HEIGHT="480"

After the keyword CODEBASE you have to specify the TCP/IP address or URL of the Web-Server which does store the java applet file "IMasterSaia_x.jar".

Example
In the example above the file "IMasterSaia5_14_30.jar" is loaded from the WebServer sbc-support.com, from folder /faq/general/applets/.

Every Web-Application which is connected to the Internet could now use the file "IMasterSaia5_14_30.jar" located on this Web-Server.

If you have no internet access and you have a second PCD in the network in which the .jar File is loaded. Then you have to change in the html file the text to CODEBASE="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" (x = ipaddress of PCD with the .jar File)

Remarks

• Please note that each "Build All" in the S-WebEditor will reset the modifications in the *.html and the file needs to be modified again manually.
• In case you do not yet have an own server which hosts the applets, you could use for your tests the applet which is present on the sbc-support.com server in folder: www.sbc-support.com/faq/general/applets/
  The following applets are currently present in this folder:
  - IMasterSaia5_14_27.jar
  - IMasterSaia5_14_30.jar
  - IMasterSaia5_15_02.jar
  - IMasterSaia5_15_03.jar
  - IMasterXX7_5_14_27.jar
  - IMasterXX7_5_14_30.jar
  - IMasterXX7_5_15_02.jar
  - IMasterXX7_5_15_03.jar
  Please note that Saia-Burgess Controls AG can not ensure a 100% availabiliy of these files which can create service interruptions of the web project. By using the link to these files you agree to the fact that SBC refuses any responsability for service interruptions and damages created in consequence and reserves the right to remove the files from the location described above without notice.

To enter e value in to an edit field it's possible to use only a numeric keyboard instead of the alphanumeric keyboard.

 

Instead to edit a value with the “original” alphanumeric keyboard of the CE-Panel it’s possible to edit the value with the use of a alphanumeric keyboard: 
  

You have to make the following steps: 
Add the file keypad.teq to your Web-Editor project. (With the menu point: Project, add to project, file). 
The file keypad.teq could be found on the dirctory
C:\Program Files\SAIA-Burgess\Web Editor 5_13_00\QVGATeqlib\KEYPAD.TEQ

On the CE-Panel you have to modify the file “uBrowser.xml” stored on the folder “storage card/microbrowser”.
There you have to change the parameter sip "1"  to
"0"

After restarting the microbrowser on the CE-Panel the numeric keyboard “keypad.teq” will be used instead of the alphanumeric keyboard of CE-Panel. 

Remark about the difference between the “original” alphanumeric keyboard of CE-Panel and the numeric keyboard “keypad.teq”:

- If you do edit a value with the “original” alphanumeric keyboard of CE-Panel then the “original” alphanumeric keyboard of CE-Panel is placed on the foreground of the Web-Page and the Web-Page in the background (which does contains the edit filed) is still visible.

-  If you do edit a value with the numeric keyboard “keypad.teq” then the numeric keyboard “keypad.teq” is placed on the foreground of the Web-Page and the Web-Page in the background (which does contains the edit filed) is not visible.

 

You have to use a special comparison condition “<” then “1” (less then value 1) in the option “Hide and Disable Painter” of the painter properties.

 

The S-Web Editor allows hiding elements depending on the value of the PCD variable.
This is done with the option “Hide and Disable Painter” on the painter properties.

If you do use a comparison condition “=” and for example you want to check if a flag of the PCD has the value 0 or 1 then during runtime the MB-Display or CE-Panel have to read first the value of the PCD flag.
As soon as the MB-Display knows the status of the flag the condition of the comparison is checked and the depending of the result, the painter does hide the painter or not. 
The MB-Display or the CE-Panel does show the painter until he knows the status of the flag.
This behavior lead to the situation, that the painter is shown shortly on the MB-Display or the CE-Panel. 

To avoid this behavior you have to use the comparison condition
“<” then “1” (less then value 1)
instead of the condition
“=” then “1” (equal then value 1) in the option “Hide and Disable Painter” of the painter properties. 

Please note that this behavior occurs only on:
-          MB-Display (PCD7.D4xx)
-          CE-Panel if the Microbrowser is used. (PCD7.D5xxx)

 

Yes, this is possible by using a container variable.

 

Procedure for accessing PCD resources in a Web Page indexed
In the S-Web Editor you have to add the content of a container variable to the basis address of the PCD resource as following:
Depending of the version of the Web-Builder it's possible to use the symbolic ressource name of PG5.

For all versions of the Web-Builder: 
PDP,,PCD_Address+@COFF_Container_name@,d

The signification of this syntax can be found in the following table:

PDP,,	Start of the Syntax Process data point
PCD_Address	Base address of the PCD resource
+@COFF_	Start delimiter for the name of the container variable
Container_name	Name of the container variable
@	End delimiter for the name of the container variable
,d	Format of the resource

Only for Web-Builder with version > 2.0.31: 
PG5_Symbol_name+@COFF_Container_name@,d

The signification of this syntax can be found in the following table:

PG5_Symbol_name	Symbolic Name of the PCD resource
+@COFF_	Start delimiter for the name of the container variable
Container_name	Name of the container variable
@	End delimiter for the name of the container variable
,d	Format of the resource

During runtime of the Web project, the content of the container variable is added to the base address of the PCD media. 

Example
You have defined 2 container variable with the name “First_pointer” and “Second_pointer”.
The container “First_pointer” does contain the value 10.
The container “Second _pointer” does contain the value 5. 
If you do write the following PPO name on the S-Web Editor items “static text” or “edit box”, then you will have the following results:

Syntax in the S-Web Editor	Following PCD resource are accessed
PDP,,R100+@COFF_First_pointer@,d	Register 110
PDP,,R100+@COFF_First_pointer@+@COFF_Second_pointer@,d	Register 115
PDP,,DB20+@COFF_First_pointer@.2+@COFF_Second_pointer@,d	DB 30 element 7

with symbolic ressource name of PG5:
(Name of the PG5 ressource: My_Reg with address 200) 

Syntax in the S-Web Editor	Following PCD resource are accessed
My_Reg+@COFF_First_pointer@,d	Register 210
My_Reg+@COFF_First_pointer@+@COFF_Second_pointer@,d	Register 215

 

If the alarm text is too long, the active alarms are not displayed at all (only in Microbrowser CE versino 1.5.10.82c and older).

 

 

Symptom
Active alarms are not displayed by the Microbrowser running on a Windows CE panel (PCD7.D5xxx). The "Microbrowser CE" version used is 1.5.10.82c or older. Additionally, the alarm texts are rather long and maybe unicode characters are used.

Reason
The maximal length of an alarm line in the Microbrowser CE is 128 bytes (including invisible characters). In case unicode characters are used, it is possible that the visible text can only be 43 characters. (Note that unicode characters with code > 0x7f do require 2 or 3 bytes per character to be mapped).
Until and including version 1.5.10.82c, the Microbrowser CE doesn't show texts that exceed 128 bytes lenght. Later versions do/will show only the characters that are present in these 128 bytes.

Solution
Shorten the alarm texts for that they fit in 128 bytes.

 

Since the first version of the Web Editor has been released there has been many functionalities added. In parallel, new functionality has been added in PCD firmware, Micro Browser Panels (MB Panels PCD7.D4xxx), CE Panels (PCD7.D5xxx) as well as on eXP Panels (PCD7.D6xxx). This FAQ contains a function matrix that gives further information regarding the added functionalities and dependencies.

 

Introduction
The various features of pages created with the Web Editor do require functionalities of the PCD firmware as well as of the panels/PC systems used. Depending on the panel or PC, these functionality needs to be implemented in:

• The PCD firmware itself. The PCD firmware can be downloaded from the according product section on the support site.
• The firmware (of an MB Panels if used). The MB Panel firmware can be downloaded from the product section PCD7.D4xx from the support site.
• The image (if a CE- or eXP panel is used). The according image can be downloaded from the product section PCD7.D5xxxx (CE) or PCD7.D6xxx (eXP) from the support site.
• In the IMasterSaiaxxx.jar (for the usage of a web browser running on a PC). The IMasterSaiaxxx.jar is distributed together with the Web Editor and will be copied into the PG5 project by the Web Editor. The Web Editor itself can be downloaded from the Application overview page "S-Web" on the support site.

Supported features by panels and the Web Editor
The table below shows the first version of the Web Editor supporting various features. Additionally, the required version of the panel operating system is shown, too.

Web-Editor functions	Web Editor	MB Panels QVGA (FW version)	Web-Editor (MB version)	eXP Panels (IMaster.jar )	PC/Laptop (IMaster.jar)
New PG5 Symbol selector with group support	5.13.00	-	-	-	-
New Macro format incl. gif & PPO min/max & unit	5.13.00	-	-	-	-
Validation of user entered values for date & time for PPOs	5.13.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
New Alarming macros for 3.5" MB Panel with F-key operation	5.13.00	1.08.01	-	-	-
New filter "Active or NAK" in Macro DefOnline Alarming	5.13.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
Alarming & Trending Date/Time display format configurable	5.13.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
Browser resp. applet loads only 1 page				5.10.00	5.10.00
Alarming (with extension for ACK by user program)	5.07.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.07.00	5.07.00
Support of Unicode character set (only for the display of texts in the browser by the use of "HTML tags")	5.07.00	V1004	1.5.10.082c	intern. JVM required	intern. JVM required
Multi line painter	5.07.00	V228	V1.5.072	5.07.00	5.07.00
Web-Editor zooming	5.07.00			5.07.00	5.07.00
Hide & disable group	5.07.00	V228	V1.5.072	5.07.00	5.07.00
Support of  Web-Editor version 5.07.00 (without usage of trending, alarming and Unicode characters)	-	V228	V1.5.072	5.07.00	5.07.00
Trending	5.03.00	1.07.00	1.5.10.082c	5.03.00	5.03.00
Autom. page change	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
Password 4 levels	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
TableControl	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
ComboBox	5.03.00			5.03.00	5.03.00
Unicode with cyrillic Windows	5.13.00	1.08.02	1.5.10.082c	5.13.00	5.13.00
HTML support (e.g. frameset for navigation)	-	No	No
Support for SD-card (backup and restore; clone and restore from clone)	-	1.08.01	-	-	-

The version 1.5.10.082c of the Micro Browser for CE panels is distributed with the following images for the CE panels:

• For PCD7D.5xxxTMxxx (CELERON): version $1.0.3.0
• For PCD7D.5xxxTXxxx (XScale):     version $2.0.27.0

Supported features by PCD firmware
The table below shows the first version of the PCD systems supporting various features.

Web-Editor functions	PCD3.Mxx0	PCD2.M480	PCD2.M170	PCD2.M150	PCD1.M135	PCS1.Cxxx	PCD3.Mxx7
Trending	020	039	020	0D0	0A2	0B3	1.440
Alarming (ACK possibility by user program)	039	039	0E3	0E3	0E3	0C0	1.511
New filter "Active or NAK" in Macro DefOnline Alarming	1.06.38	1.08.21	0E3	0E3	0E3	0E3	1.08.04
Nbr. of data points > 1500 (max. 1500 data points/page)	020	1.08.21	020	0D0	0A2	0B3	1.440
Nbr. of pages > 32	020	1.08.21	020	0D0	0A2	0B3	1.440

Remark
The versions mentioned above are the first versions that support the according feature. As the versions all are backward compatible, it is recommended using the last version rather than downgrading a system to the version indicated above.
The first name of this FAQ was "Which functionality is supported in which Web Editor, Micro Browser and firmware version?"

 

There are several reasons listed below why your start page may not be displayed

 

- No virtual Java machine installed at all. We need a virtual Java machine to display dynamic
web pages. On never Windows virtual Java machine isn't installed anymore, because .Network
based. Get the actual version from www.java.com

- The versions of IMasterSaia5_xx_xx.jar on the PCD (or in the WebConnect folder) and the
one used in the WebEditor project don't match.

- When you address your PCD via HTTP-direct by simply browsing with the IP-Address
(i.e. 172.16.1.141) then per default the page start.htm will be displayed. If your project
doesn't contain this start.htm file, then the default start.htm from the firmware, with "Login/Logout",
"PCD Status" and "Variable Lists", is displayed. If your *.htm/*.html start file has another name
then you'll have to address it with it's name i.e. 172.16.1.141/mystart.htm

- Your start page (*.htm or *.html) is not in the user programm of the PCD, not on the Flash Card
of the PCD and not in the WebConnect folder.

- Your *.teq file you defined as your main-teq file in the WebEditor project is not in the user programm
of the PCD, not on the Flash Card of the PCD and not in the WebConnect folder.

 

There are some nice features that can be executed when actioning the WebEditor Buttons

 

URL jump to another PCD and open this page in a new Browser tab by using the "_new" argument. Condition is, that
the start page of the WebEditor project in the other PCD is called "start.htm". So, the name of the start page can be neglected.


URL jump to a www-address and open this page in a new Browser tab by using the "_new" argument


Open a *.PDF-File from the local Flash-Card with a non-Micro-Broswer panel in a new tab of the browser


Open a *.PDF-File from the local storage card with a Micro-Browser software running on a CE Windows touch panel.
Starts the PDF-Viewer in a new Micro-Browser Process


Opens from the CE-Panel in the Micro-Browser the Internet Explorer in a new window and giving the URL to open
directly as an argument / parameter. Starts the Internet Explorer in a new Process



Check if the user browses with a Micro-Browser or with a non-Micro-Browser to implement respective actions in
the WebEditor project. Display / hide buttons, actions of the button, etc

Check the Container variable "@MB_OS_VERSION". It contains the value "0" if you browse with a non-Micro-Browser
or the respective version of the Micro-Browser

 

Yes, it is possible to add a new curve in an existing trending diagram during runtime of the web page using a new field.

 

If you want to add a new curve on an online trending of the Web-Editor during runtime of the web page, you have to use the button "New" on the online trend macro.

If the symbolic name of the new data curve does exist in the *.tcr file (means that this symbolic name is used on the Web-Editor project) then it's possible to enter this sybolic name in to the field.
If the symbolic name does not exist in the *.tcr file then you have to enter the new curve paramter as PDP,,R100,d syntax (example for the register 100)

The other three fields can be used to define the min. and max value of the new curve as the color for the new curve.

If you want to know which symbolic name does exist in the *.tcr file you can upload the file directly on the web-browser by writing the *.tcr name on the address field of the web-browser.

 

If you work with 'Filezilla' or other FTP clients, to access the FTP server on SBC PCD® systems take care about this remark about the active or passive FTP connection.

PCD FW < 1.22.xx does support only the FTP active mode.

PCD FW >= 1.22 xx does support the FTP active and passive mode.

 

You can download this freeware on www.filezilla.de in the version that fits with your operating system.
It's Multilanguage and comes along with some nice features as 'Drag&Drop', 'Upload/Download Queue', 'Keep-Alive-System'.

There's only one detail you have to be aware when you use the PCD FW < 1.22.xx:
You must use 'Filezilla' in the 'active' mode.
Per default 'Filezilla' runs in 'passive' mode and therefore it's necessary to change the connection to 'active' mode as described in the user manual for 'PCD3.R600' in the chapter 'Examples for connecting the PCD® FTP-Server' under 'Filezilla'.

If you use the PCD FW >= 1.22.xx you can also use 'Filezilla' in the 'passive' mode!

 

All the application is working correct with no error indication, nevertheless, the Alarms aren't displayed in the Web Alarming list. The list remains blank and no columns are visible as on the picture below.

 

Symptom
All the application is working correct with no error indication, nevertheless, the Alarms aren't displayed in the Web Alarming list from the Alarming Macro. When displayed on a PC with the Internet Explorer or Firefox, the list remains blank and no columns are visible as on the picture below.

When displayed on a VGA MB Panel with firmware 1.12.05, the error message "Error -51: .../alarm.exe?-6&sta failed!" is displayed in the Message Box teq view. 

Reason
This phenomenon can be caused by an incorrect format configuration of the PPO "A.Alarm.ThisAlarmList.MyName", "A.Alarm.AllgemeineAlarmliste.MyName" (or however your Alarmlist is called). This PPO must have the format "STRING" and unfortunately not all S-WebEditor versions do automatically define this format.

If the format is empty or not equal "STRING", the alarmlist will not work correctly.

Solution
Define the format "STRING" for the AlarmList PPO and rebuild the S-WebEditor project. Once the S-WebEditor project is rebuilt, execute a "Rebuild All..." in the PG5 Project manager and download the project (the *.tcr file must be updated on the PCD; this file is concerned by the modification of the format).

 

The FBox SWeb Alarm Init is green but no alarms are displayed on the AlarmingOff.teq displayed in the Web Application. Check what SWA alarming library version you have. This problem is known in the version SWA alarming_V1_3_000_ml.exe.

 

 Solution:

Update the library with this version:  SWA alarming_V1_4_200_ml.exe which is available in PG5 1.4 200! After the installation of the new library the FBox SWeb Alarm Init has to be replaced by the new one.

Remark: This library is available on the PG5 1.4 200 installation CD under: \Fbox libs\C\

 

As those fupla librairies aren't used by all customer there aren't installed automatcaly in fupla editor during PG5 installation. They have to be installed manually from PG5 installation CD.

 

The libs HDLog_V1_3_00x_ml.exe and SWA alarming_V1_x_xxx_ml.exe are located in PG5 installation CD under: \Fbox libs\C\

After the installation thoses libraries are located in the FBox selector under User.

 

In some cases (e.g. in a Web Editor project for a QVGA MB Panel) the widths of the columns of the alarming macro are not convenient. In this case it's possible to adapt the columns width of the alarming macro by following the procedure described in this FAQ.

 

Modifying the column width in alarming macro
In case the specified widths of the columns in the alarming macro is visually not fitting, these widths can be modified.

• In the S-Web-Editor open the page with the alarming macro

• Double click the alarming macro, so that the window "GROUP" opens.
  

• Select the tab "Cross Ref". In the cross reference list select entry "STRING "#sp;…."".  The start position of the individual columns are defined in this string in the order:
  StateColour, ID, Alarm text, Time on, Time off, ACK/NAK, Counter.

• Adjust column width. The numerical values correspond to the percentage of the entire width, according to which the column is to begin. If a column is to be hidden, the value “120” is to be entered.
  So if the first two values are “120“, the columns “StatusColour“ and “Alarm ID“ are not displayed. The column “Alarm text“ starts at the beginning (with 0% of the width), followed by “Time on“ with 58% of the width etc. 

Remark
This explanation together with other useful information can be found in the Getting Started example "Getting started with the QVGA MB Panel" on the support site (Section "General Information" --> "Getting Started" --> "Program examples" --> Web- and HMI).

 

After installing or upgrading the Sun Java Virtual Machine Version 6 (resp. 1.6) the SBC Java applet for S-Web applications (IMasterSaia*.jar) does not update PPO values anymore. To fix this refreshing problem, either use a recent firmwae or disable the file caching for java files.

 

Symptom
At the beginning of April 2007, Sun Microsystems started to distribute it's updated Java Virtual Machine, now called Java Platform Standard Edition 6 which is in fact version 1.6.0. After this version is installed, the Java applet used with S-Web application does not work properly anymore. While setting PPO values via Buttons or Edit Boxes still work, the actual PPO values are not updated/refreshed.

Reason
This problem is caused by the fact that version 6 / 1.6 activates the file caching for java files, which was normally deactivated in former Java versions. To solve the PPO update problem within the SBC applet, the file caching for java files has to be disabled again!

Solution
There are two possible solution in this case:

• Recommended solution
  Use a recent firmware version, later than 1.10.16 for PCD3 or PCD2.M5xxx. This firmware version contains the new Web Server 2 which supports the caching mechanism used by the Java Virtual Machine.  
• In case it is not possible updating the firmware of the PCD, disable the caching of files in the Java Virtual Machine. Therefore go to the control panel and open the settings for "Java". At the bottom of the "General" tab, click on the Button "Settings..." within the "Temporary Internet file" group. Now the dialog "Settings for temporary files" should be openend (see screenshot below).
  
  Disable the the file caching by untick the checkbox and clear the file cache by clicking the "Delete files..." button. Close all opened dialogs with "OK" and restart your Web-Browser. Now, the SBC applet and your S-Web application should work properly again (but the whole applet will be reloaded every time when opening the web page).
  

If the text passed to the FBox "HDLog Bin" (from the FBox library "Historic Data Logging" version 1.3.000) is a global symbol a build of the project fails due to a "Multi Defined Blocks"-Error.

 

Symptom
A build of a PG5 project containing the FBox "HDLog Bin" from the FBox library "Historic Data Logging" fails if the symbol entered on the face of the FBox is a global symbol. The error message shown in the message window of the PG5 Project Manager is:

Multi-defined Blocks:
TEXT/DB MyText (4001) in modules: 'Fupla.obj' '_Global.obj'
Linkage complete. 1 errors, 0 warnings.

Reason
This is a bug in PG5 SP1.4.130 and will be corrected in the next release of PG5.

Solution
As solution until the next version of PG5 is released please do not declare the text entered on the face of the FBox as "global" symbol.
In case the same text is also used in another program module, provide a static address to this text and refer to this static address from the other module where the same text is used.

 

Together with PG5 SP1.4.130 a new version of the "Historic Data Logging" FBox library has been distributed. Due to a small bug the FBox "HDLog Init" causes this error on build of the PG5 project.

 

Symptom
On build of a PG5 project that contains an FBox "HDLog Init" from the FBox library "Historic Data Logging" version 1.3.000 the following message is shown:

Assembling: Fupla.fbd
Warning 2: C:\Program Files\SAIA-Burgess\PG5 1_4\Libs\Usr\HDLOG.lib: Line 1279: Parameter "Name" not used in macro "_HdaInit"

Reason
This is a small bug in the FBox "HDLog Init" and means that an internal parameter is not used (because there is no reason to use it). However, the FBox code should avoid this message.

Solution
This warning can be ignored. The functionality of the FBox or the project is not influenced.
The next release of the library will avoid this warning. 

 

The PG5 Controls Suite package available on the support page was not complete during the three two weeks (until 1 February 2007) it was online. The release notes of the S-Web-Editor 5.10.00 as well as the the macro library for the S-Web-Editor were missing.

 

Description
Customers who have downloaded the PG5 Controls Suite (PG5 SP1.4.130) before the 1 February 2007 are missing the Release Notes of the S-Web-Editor 5.10.00 as well as the macro library for the S-Web-Editor.
Further on there have been some broken links on the Index page of the package.

 

Solution
The missing files are available on the support site in the PG5 section. Please download these files and complete your installation.

Note
The available package on the support site has been corrected.
This FAQ does not concern you if you have downloaded the package after 1 February 2007 or if you have received the PG5 SP1.4.130 on a CD. 

 

The values of persistent containers are stored permanently on the file system. If you close MicroBrowser the values of the persistent containers are not lost.

 

The value of the container variables of the S-Web-Editor are not stored if the web application is closed.

If you want to store values of container variables, you have to use the persistent container variables. (MB_PERCO_0 to MB_PERCO_19)

This is very useful if you want to save language settings for example. The persistent containers have no specific purpose, you can use them for your own needs.

The container variables are stored permanetly on the file system of the following web panels:

- MicroBrowser Panel:          PCD7.D4xx
- Windows CE Web Panel:     PCD7.D5xxx

On the other web panels it is not possible to store persistent container variables.

On the Windows CE web panel PCD7.D5xxx the persistent container variable are stored on the file "uBrowsCo.xml“ on the directory "StorageCard/Micro-Browser/“ of the flash card of the web panel.

 

Yes, it's possible to store the last used language and to restore this stored langauge during startup of the Web-Panel

 

To store the last used language you have to make the following steps on the S-Web-Editor:

Create a own page where you select the language which you want to use.
To select the language you have to use a button whit the functionality "Set Variable on mouse down" where the Container Variable @LANGUAGE is written with the language specific *.csv file name.

On the same page, place a macro "EventP_wrCo2Co_onLostFocus_x“ or „EventP_wrCo2PPO_onLostFocus_x".
This macro will write the container variable @LANGUAGE in to a persistent container or in to a PCD variable if the page is leavead.

On the start page of the Web application place a macro:  „EventP_wrCo2Co_onGainFocus_x“ or „EventP_wrPPO2Co_onGainFocus_x".
This macro will copy the content of the persistent container or the PCD variable in to the container variable @LANGAUGE  if the page is called. 

Please note, that if you do store the Container variable @LANGUAGE in to a PCD variable this will invoke the behaviour that all Web-Panel which does access the Web-Application on the PCD do use the same language during startup.

If you do store the @LANGUAGE in to a persisten Container this will lead to the situation, that each Web-Panel could have stored his own, different langauge. 

 

On a CE Web-Panel it's possible to use also the persistent container variable.

 

    Its possible to use the persistent container variable MB_PERCO_0 to MB_PERCO_19, which are availabe on the S-Web Editor, also on the CE-Web Panel.

 

The value of this persistent container variable are stored on the flash card of the CE Web-Panel on the following folder:
„StorageCard/Micro-Browser/“
in the file "uBrowsCo.xml"

 

When using alarming the alarmlist has to be defined as STRING in the PPO list. Otherwise this can cause errors.

When using OfflineTrend the resource used as Base PPO Name has to be a register if it is a DB it causes a wrong pointing and this error message is created.

 

Problem
When opening the Web Application the warning button is displayed and when clicking on the button the message: "TEQ file parse first char error file" is displayed.
 

Reason
1) If alarming is used the error can be caused by the alarmlist. The alarmlist has to be defined as STRING in the PPO-list. If there is no definition it won't work.
2) Another reason for this error can be that a text in the page is not defined as STRING.
3) If Offline Trend is used and a DB is choosen as Base PPO Name (instead a Register) a wrong pointing is created in the Web builder file (xxx.tcr).
4) If in the PPO list, a register variable has the format STRING

Solution
Define the alarmlist / text as STRING in the PPO list.
Define a register as Base PPO Name in the Offline Trend Macro (in Tag Macro Offline Trend)
Don't define a register as STRING

 

For "non Saia PCD® COSinus systems" the option "Encode Special Chars" must be unchecked within:

S-Web Editor 5 > Project Configuration > Project - Applet Advanced

S-Web Editor 8 > Project Configuration > Runtime - General

 

Symptom
Instead of the PPO values, "No Message" is shown in the Web Editor Project. The PCD used is one of the following types:

• PCD1.M1x5
• PCD2.M15x or PCD2/4.M17x
• PCS1.Cxxx

Reason
If the option Encode Special Chars on the Applet Advanced tab of the Project Configuration dialog within S-Web Editor is checked, the Java applet encodes certain characters (e.g. comma) when ordering PPO values at the web-server.
Unfortunately such an encoded order is not properly interpreted by CPUs other than PCD3 or PCD2.M5xxx.

This problem can only occur if someone has manually checked the Encode Special Chars option, because this option is unchecked per default.

Solution
To solve the problem, proceed as following 

1. uncheck the option "Encode Special Chars"
   (For S-Web Editor 5)
   

             (For S-Web Edtior 8)
            

1. execute a Build All in the S-Web Editor
2. execute a Rebuild All in PG5 Project Manager
   
3. download the updated program to the PCD
4. restart the Web-Browser to ensure that the Java applet is actually reloaded, since some VMs use a kind of caching mechanism otherwise

Formating problems may prevent the displaying of texts which are defined inside CSV files.

 

The SBC Web-Editor allows to define texts (so called "HTML tags" and alarm descriptions) inside of one or more CSV files. This is especially powerful when designing multi-language applications, but may also be handy for single-language applications with many different alarms.

Be careful when editing the CSV files

When editing the CSV files, it is very important to maintain the exact format of the file. Every line starts with an ID sequence which must not be changed, otherwise the applet or Micro-Browser will not find the regarding entry anymore. Only the part after the separator character (e.g. the semicolon) is allowed to chance. Please do not substitute the separator character with another character, it won't work!

Potential problems when using spreadsheet programs

Special attention is necessary when editing the CSV file with a spreadsheet program, because these programs tend to change the file formating. Microsoft Excel, for instance, could change the separation character without any warning, depending on the actual language settings of your system. It has also been reported by customers, that Excel makes CSV file entries invalid by adding quotes or double-quotes around texts. Please be aware that these are only examples: Things like these can also happen with other programs!

CSV editing tips and tricks

After saving a CSV file that has been edited with a spreadsheet program, you should open the CSV file with Notepad (or any other "plain" text editor) to double check, if the format is still valid. Best editing results are achieved by using an advanced text editor like UltraEdit, Programmer’s Notepad, EditPad Pro etc. Unicode should be supported by the editor when creating or editing files with special character sets, e.g. asian, cyrilic characters.

 

Please check PPO format definitions in Web-Editor if some or all GIF graphics or TEQ views are not displayed, although the regarding files are available within the PLC's RAM or flash memory.

 

When using PPOs which are texts variables within the PLC, it will always lead to problems if the PPO format is not defined properly. The possible effects reach from missing some TEQ views and/or GIF graphics, to not loading the web-application at all!

So if you run into such strange behavior of a web-application, you should carefully check that all text PPOs are really set to STRING format within Web-Editor's PPO list. Please note, that it is not OK to leave the format property empty in case of texts!

 

In order to use the FKEYs of the uBrowser Panel it is necessary to add button on the web pag and configure the function key accordingly. Hereby the description:

• place a button on your teq file. Or outside the teq file so the button can't be activated on the touch screen, in this case make your teq file bigger (menu: Project / Teq view configuration) and give for example Height 280 instead of 240!
• Within the Button parameters, In tag "Function Key" typ the following syntax: FKEY_1 (to FKEY_12) according to your need
• Configure the other parameters depending of the needed action as usual for any other button
• If the button is placed on the touch area you might need to make it invisible, so in the tag "General" of the ajust parameters window deactvated the 2 options: Has Internal Color and Has Outfite Color

In the WebEditor it's possible to display also non-ASCII character set text using "HTML TAG" in combination with a *.csv file.

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On the attached example you can see, how the RTC of the PCD could be displayed and modified on a Web-page.

Also it's possible to know, if the PCD is running or is stoped.

 

 

To read the RTC of the PCD the FBox "Read Time" have to be used.
To know the date, the ouptut "Day" of the FBox have to be dived with 1000000.

 

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On the S-Web editor the symbol Clock_HMS have to be defined as format HH:MM:SS
The Clock_Date has the format DD.MM.YY

To write the RTC of the PCD the FBox "Write Time" have to be used.

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On the S-Web editor the symbol Write_HMS have to be defined as format HH:MM:SS
The Write_Date has the format DD.MM.YY

To know if the PCD is running or not the FBox Load timer is used.

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Each cycle the timer is loade with a value 10. If the PCD is not running, then the timer does elaps to 0.
Checking the value of the timer on the Web-Editor allow to know if the PCD is running or not
Timer > 5: PCD is running
Timer = 0: PCD is stoped.

 

 

It's possible to close a modem connection of a S-Web project with the use of special URL link. this FAQ is valid for WebConnect 1.x.

 

If it's necessary to close a modem connection of a S-Web project on the Web-Browser directly on the web page which was created with the S-Web editor then on the S-Web editor you have to define a button with the action "URL-Jump".

As URL you have to use the name:

/setup?page=mainsetup&btn=disconnect&oname=STATION_NAME

where the name "STATION_NAME" have to be replaced with the name of the station which was defined on Web-Connect.

On the example below the station name was modem.

Please note that after the disconnection of the modem communication no more data are updated on the Web-Browser.

The example project is stored in FAQ #100567

 

The maximal lenght of all file names in a Webproject is 18 characters (without extention). Special characters and spacees are not supported.

 

Problem
It is possible to define file names with more than 18 characters and special characters or spaces. Unfortunately these cases are not catched by the WebEditor. However, the Web Editor project will not work properly if a file (*.teq, *.gif etc.) has a name that is more than 18 characters. It might be that the file is not downloaded at all and is therefore missing in your project (the 18 characters do not include dot and extention).
If a *.teq file has a file name longer than 18 characters it is possible that the PPO values are not read from the PCD ("no message" is shown instead). It is also possible that only a part of the PPO values is shown.

 

Examples

• Thisismygif.gif (11 charakters=ok)

• Thisteqistoolong132.teq (19 charakters=too long)

• New Gif.gif (Space is used= not allowed!)

• Hällö.teq (Special character used=not allowed!)

 

All files in the Web project should be defined according to this rules including the Webproject itself.

 

The FBox "HDLog Init" from the family "Historic data logging" can cause a problem during the build of the according project. The Error message is "Constant out of range".

 

Symptom
A build of the Project fails due to the error message
Operand errors:
Error 336: new_hda.obj (806): CMP: __CSTART__: Constant out of range
This problem disappears if the Fupla containing the Inizialize FBox "HDLog Init" from the FBox family "Historic data logging" is not linked. This FBox is used for the creation of trends in the Web-Editor.
The FBox macro is called _HDAINIT and the version number is 10201 (right-click on the FBox and select "Advanced info" in order to see this information).

 

Reason
This problem is caused by a bug in the FBox, when the FBox code lies below a certain (high) memory address. Therefore, the problem normally only occurs in larger programs.

Solution
In order to avoid this problem the Fupla file that contains the Inizialize FBox "HDLog Init" has to be placed at the very beginning of the "CPU Link Order" (menu "CPU"-->"Link Order..."). Additionally, it may become necessery to place the "HDLog Init" FBox on the first few pages of the Fupla file. (Hint: To move up a Fupla page/block, use Ctrl+Up in the Page Navigator).
This bug will be fixed in the first Service Pack of PG5 1.4

 

In case your browser shows some text before and after the Web-Editor applet, it might be that at least one of your PPOs has the configured format "string" but is in fact a numeric value.

 

Symptom
Your browser shows strange texts such as "GENERATED FROM PLC EDITOR by ININET Solutions GmbH on Friday, November 25, 2005--> " before the applet (showing the pages generated with the Web-Editor). After the Applet, some other strange characters can appear.
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Reason
The reason for this phenomenon most likely is the fact that a numeric PPO does have the format "string" configured.

Solution
In order to solve this problem, open the window "PPO Initialisation". The "Init PPO..." is to be found in the menu "Project" of the Web-Editor. In this window, check the format definitions of the used PPOs. Make sure all integer medias (registers etc.) do not have the format "string" configured! 

 

The Web Editor does show the pictures in exactly the size it is imported. The Web Editor itself cannot resize pictures. This means that the picture is to be modified using another appropriate tool (e.g. Gimp or Adobe Photoshop). After the picture is resized, re-import it (change the source in the Repaint tab to the new picture).

 

 

If you want to visualise a Webpage at the 0,0 position of your browser in full screen mode without scrollbars, you'll need to add some extra html commands on your start-htm/html file of the Webproject in the body tag. The following code has been tested in the Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) and Firefox 3.0.

 

 

 

Remark
Note that the Web Editor does not set these parameters automatically and these commands have to be added manually every time after generating the HTML page.

 

If there is a missing PPO in a Web-Editor project, a build from PG5 will fail with the error 31.

 

Symptom
During the build of the PG5 project a line as below will appear in the PG5 Project Manager's message window and the Build will fail.
Assembling: Web panel.wsc
Error 31: Web panel.wsc: Line 1915: Syntax error
1 errors, 0 warnings

 

Reason
The syntax error is generated by a PDP tag in the *.wsc file that doesn't contain a PCD ressource. The reason therefore most likely is found in the Web-Editor project: There could be a Painter with an empty PPO entry.

Solution
In order to solve this problem, open your Web-Editor Project and watch out for newly introuced painters. Systematically check the painters and verify that every pointer that modifies or depends on  a PPO does also have a valid entry!
The situation that causes the error looks like the image below:
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If the S-Web Editor detects a painter (graphical object in the view) that does have invalid dimension or position, a warning message will be shown. This message does also offer to correct the invalid values by setting default values...

 

Symptom
A message window as below does appear on opening a teq-view or when a pointer in the teq-view is selected:
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WARNING checked painter's sizes from teq view : MyView.teq is out or ranges. Do you want the PLCEditor to size it to painter default sizes?

 

In case a polygon or polyline is concerned, a second message window will pop up after the user has agreed to set the size to default values (often several times):
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CSpiderControlEditorDoc::CheckPainterSizeAndPositionInViewRanges() the painter with false sizes is a polygon or polyline so it will not be resized. Please make that correciton manually.

Reason
One common reason for this problem is that there exists a polygon or a polyline that do have a dimension of 0 or 1 pixels (so they are not visible). The S-Web Editor recognizes that there is an invalid object (painter) and therefore asks the user whether is should set the painter to its default values.
Since a polygon or a polyline doesn't have a "default" shape or size, the S-Web Editor isn't able to set the default size and informs the user with the second message.
Since the object(s) that cause the problem are most likely invisible, the user won't correct the dimension(s) of these painter(s) and therefore the S-Web Editor will complain about the same painter(s) again and again (which ends up in an endless clicking orgy for the user).

Solution
In order to get rid of this warnings, it is recommendet to delete the faulty painters. To do so, please follow the procedure below:

• Select all your painters in the view (place the mouse on the upper left part of the view and move the mouse with pressed left button to the lower right area of the view)

• Group all painters (right mouse click and select Group)

• Open the cross reference list (select the group and then right mouse click and select Cross Ref...)

• Look for polygons or polylines in the list of painters. If you find one, double click it and check the position and the dimensions. If the the values do not look reasonable (e.g. a dimension of 0 or 1 pixel), note down the coordinates of this painter.

• Close the Cross Reference and ungroup the selection

• Now find the invalid painters based on the coordinates you've written down. The coordinates of a selected painter are shown in the "Painter configurations" window on the left side. Once found, delete the faulty painter(s).

• Save your teq-view after this procedure. Repeat the procedure in case there are more faulty painters.

Hint: On small views you might be able to find the faulty painter by only selecting all painters and looking for single points (that could be a painter with no dimension).